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Plow with NO COULTERS??

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SuperCmore

01-12-2005 07:53:47

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Nice pic that mjd posted of his 350 and father plowing with 3-14 Fast Hitch plow. However, I've never seen a plow with no coulters or "cutters". Is this common?? Seems the landside would be kind of "messy" without coulters, I think they're called. Just a question, maybe someone can enlighten me...Thanks, Cmore

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Hugh MacKay

01-13-2005 03:34:03

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

Cmore: Coulters have become an expensive item to keep working on a plow. When it came to 3 or more bottoms spring cushion is almost a must, and that just adds more wear parts. Coulters are a must with sod. Unless you go to 18" to 24" coulter size, depending on size of plow, they just wont take the punishment in trash.

While I've never plowed without coulters, I can understand why guys are doing it. $$$$$$$

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El Toro

01-12-2005 17:18:21

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

I would agree with Dave on needing them for sod
I took my coulter off and I do have any problem
plowing. Hal

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Dave Sherburne, NY

01-12-2005 14:33:08

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

We had them on for sod ground, or corn stalks,
but took them off to save wear and tear on them
when the corn had been chopped off. Not hard with
two bottm plow , but when you get to 7 bottoms
you leave them on to save wear and tear on yourself

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TP from Central PA

01-12-2005 13:20:57

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

Alot of guys around me tear them off because they say they just cause plugging..... ..... .I think a plow does a poor job without them. I always ran them and don't think they cause the plugging.

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SuperCmore

01-12-2005 09:54:20

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

Youall are right, the shims and points are what makes a clean landside, but the coulters do cut in a couple of inches. I have coulters on Cmore's 2-14 Fast Hitch, and it never seems to plug, course it's just plowing down old sunflowers that are mostly rotted away....Cmore

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Farmall43

01-12-2005 09:13:35

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

I don't use coulters on any of my plows. I always have problems with plugging in corn stubble and heavy trash. Without I don't plug and it does not seem to affect the quality of the finished job.

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greywynd

01-12-2005 09:08:56

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

I have a plow with, and one without. The one with was my original plow, the one without is one that I inherited when I bought the property we have now. Having horses, the only plowing I do is when I decide a pasture is so bad that it needs worked up. The coulter will cut a nice straight line through the sod, allowing it to roll right over. We have a couple of 'kill paddocks' that we use for feeding in the winter, smaller so that during mud season spring and fall the horses aren't trampling good pasture to death. With all the old hay, manure etc. if I break it up in the late spring to help clean up the mess, I use the other plow, the one with the coulters seems to plug up...the old hay clumps are too much for the coulters to cut through, where as the other one usually pulls through it. (But, like some of the guys said, it's not as neat and tidy). Personally I've never used either one on a 'normal' field to plow in stubble and the like.

Mark

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Novel Idea Guy

01-12-2005 09:04:26

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

Don't know how common it is, but the coulters are meant for cutting trash. They only penetrate into the ground a couple of inches. The shins and points are what make the landside.

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Allan in NE

01-12-2005 08:52:38

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

Hi Cmore,

Heck, I dunno. I think that they were designed more for the purpose of cutting trash than producing a clean landside, weren't they?

I had a IH 3-14 spinner that absolutely had to have 'em on in heavy cover, 'cause that plow was such a low clearance thing.

Then again, I had a hired man who had a 5-16 JD spinner and a neighbor with a 6-18 White spinner and neither had coulters and they never seemed to have any problems.

Dunno, I think after they started building with enough ground clearance, the manufactures stopped putting them on.

Here's a nice 5 bottom IH 145 settin' in a lot just down the road from me without 'em. Dealer is asking $5400 for it. :>(

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CNKS

01-12-2005 11:55:36

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to Allan in NE, 01-12-2005 08:52:38

They still plow in NW Nebraska -- why? Seen very few plows in SW Kansas in the last 30 years, even on irrigated ground.

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Allan in NE

01-12-2005 13:16:27

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to CNKS, 01-12-2005 11:55:36

Hi CN,

In rotation, beets, beans and/or potatoes will oftentimes follow corn. Due to the way that they have to be raised, no-til just doesn't work. I guess spuds wouldn't be so bad, but you can just imagine running a thinner or cultivating baby beans in a field of trash.

Sugar beets work the ground to the extreme, so one usually follows beets with alfalfa to replentish the N. In turn, an old established alfalfa field has to be turned under for the next year's corn crop.

'Round and round we go.

Allan

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CNKS

01-12-2005 14:30:43

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to Allan in NE, 01-12-2005 13:16:27

I believe they still turn under old alfalfa stands around here, although a plow in the field is almost non-existant, not the case 100 miles east of here where they still plow. Used to have sugar beets here, when the processing plant went under so did the beets. Went from several thousand acres to zero in one year. Not much true no-till here on irrigated ground, there is quite a bit on dryland. Some ridge till with furrow irrigation. Most of the tillage is done with large offset or tandem disks. I grew up on a vegetable farm in south Texas, we literally beat the ground to death, wasn't a clod less than a quarter inch in diameter anywhere. Not sure that is necessary now, but I know nothing about modern vegetable farming, never grew potatoes.

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CNKS

01-12-2005 14:33:32

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to CNKS, 01-12-2005 14:30:43

Should have said no clods MORE than a quarter inch.

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Dave (IL)

01-12-2005 15:29:02

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to CNKS, 01-12-2005 14:33:32

In the Valley in TX?
I spent my HS winters in Pharr. My dad was a snowbird farmer here in IL. Always thought IL was flat until I went down there and watched them irrigate a couple hundred acres.

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CNKS

01-12-2005 18:19:02

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to Dave (IL), 01-12-2005 15:29:02

I worked at Weslaco, Texas for 3 years for USDA-ARS. Our vegetable farm was at Carrizo Springs, about 80 miles N of Laredo, on US 83, same highway Weslaco and Pharr are on. Half the cars in the Valley in the winter were from your area. My landlord in Weslaco was from Canada. Haven't been in the Valley since 1967, Carrizo since 1982 when my dad died. Had my pickup stolen in 1992 in San Antonio, though. Have a brother in Austin I visit occasionally.

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Dave (IL)

01-12-2005 20:54:39

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to CNKS, 01-12-2005 18:19:02

I never spent the summers there. Left when I graduated in 63. visited in 67 and 74. Being a farm boy (although lived in town there) was in FFA. If you were involved in agriculture you probably remember all the ag shows - Donna Lamb show. Mercedes Livestock show (had a hog there two years). Vegatable show in Pharr. Citrus show in Mission.

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CNKS

01-13-2005 18:14:04

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to Dave (IL), 01-12-2005 20:54:39

I went to a few of them. Showed a couple of pigs and a lamb in Carrizo in my younger days -- been a long time since I touched a pig!

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Aces

01-12-2005 08:35:47

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

SuperC I to never saw a plow without coulters, I would think the plow would pull some harder as well as messy land.

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old

01-12-2005 08:25:45

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Re: Plow with NO COULTERS?? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 07:53:47

A lot of time people would drop them off and or brake them. Most of the plows I have are missing them

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