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REA

01-02-2005 07:25:19




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Hi,

I placed a trickle charger to my battery and it doesn't want to take a charge. The voltage is 10.68, before and after. I have placed another trickle charger onto it in hopes that this will help. The batter is only two years old, and I believe that it is one of thoes self contained ones that you don't add any water. Am I missing something here? Is there a way of checking it for the quality of the acid and amount of water? Thank you, any help much appreciated/

Bob

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DAVE NE IOWA

01-02-2005 16:31:14




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 Re: Battery in reply to REA, 01-02-2005 07:25:19  
I have a friend that used to work in a battery factory. His job was to take relitivly new batteries in for repair or warrenty and raise them up in the air and drop them square on top of the work bench to fix them. Sounds stupid but if a piece of lead was floating around and shorting out the cell, the drop would dislodge it and float the scrap piece of lead to the bottom. Then out the door with alot of them, and back to the store. I'm thinking a square drop would be important and Wal-Mart may frown on a battery in small pieces for warrenty. Dave NE IOWA

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El Toro

01-02-2005 13:33:34




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 Re: Battery in reply to REA, 01-02-2005 07:25:19  
Hi Bob, I would take that battery to Wal-Mart and
have them check it. I think you have dead cell too. I would buy one of Wal-Mart's battery's
that has the 3-year free replacement, if it fails
during the first 3-years. I use them in everything now including the tractor. They don't quibble over the warranty either. Hal



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NEsota

01-02-2005 19:39:29




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 Re: Battery in reply to El Toro, 01-02-2005 13:33:34  
Provided you are not in a hurry,...fully charge a suspect battery, leave it undisturbed for a few days and check the specific gravity of each cell. It should fairly uniform. If one is signifcantly lower this indicates a bad cell. Having worked in the battery industry I doubt if many batteries would be fixed by dropping them on the bench but it might appear to be the case. A lot batteries get returned as defective that are good.

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El Toro

01-03-2005 05:00:22




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 Re: Battery in reply to NEsota, 01-02-2005 19:39:29  
We tested a lot of military vehicles that had those sealed batteries in them. Never could get them to hold a charge in a cold room at -25 degrees. You could charge them forever. We switched to the 6TN 12 volt military battery, it
was like comparing those sealed batteries to the
6TN as like using pen lite batteries.
You can not check the specific gravity in those sealed batteries. You have to go by that stupid light. We alway measured the specific gravity in each cell, that's the best way to tell what the condition of a battery is. Most people can not
sit around waiting 2 or 3 days for a battery to
charge. When we made start at -25 we would pull
the batteries and install another set of fully charged batteries since the they had be cold soak for 24 hours prior to next starting attempt.

The batteries we removed we would let them thaw for 12 hours then charge for 24 hours.

Most places now load test a battery and they can tell if the battery is defective. I always check each cell before I return a battery to see if one cell is a lot lower. That's the best way to determine the condition of a battery. I have worked around them for 43 years.
Hal

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Bob

01-02-2005 09:13:39




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 Re: Battery in reply to REA, 01-02-2005 07:25:19  
That voltage reading would almost certainly indicate a bad cell. There are 6 cells to a 12 Volt battery, each contributing a little over 2 Volts.



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Red Dave

01-02-2005 08:01:29




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 Re: Battery in reply to REA, 01-02-2005 07:25:19  
If terminal voltage is down to 10.68 on a 12 volt battery, it sounds like you need more than just a trickle charger.
Can you check to see if your trickle charger is even working?
Some "sealed" batterys can be opened to check specific gravity of the electrolyte, but if you only have 10.68 volts, you already know it will be low.
I would put a heavier charger on it for 5 or 6 hours, something that will put out 8-10 amps, then check it again. If it hasn't come back by then, it sounds like a new battery is in order.

If you are in a cold climate, and that battery is outside for very long at that level of charge, it may freeze. Or maybe it already did?

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