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trickie-mi

12-30-2004 15:16:27




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I need some advice on getting my new F-12 Farmall up and running. I bought it from my neighbor who needed to free up some storage space. It is a 1936 model . Does not have electric start just a crank. Are there any electric stater fits available for F-12,s? The tractor ran when he stored it in his pole-barn about 5-years ago. I havent played with it yet but I am sure that the carb is all gummed up. I friend told me that the magneto probally has a coat of rust on the laminations. Where do I start? He also stated that way back when, these machines were started on gas then were run on kerosene. Does this make any sence? I need any and all tips and advice to get her up and running. Help!

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Fred Milner

12-31-2004 16:21:37




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to trickie-mi, 12-30-2004 15:16:27  
I have the F-12 F-14 F-20 and F-30. They are a lot of fun but the 12 and 14 are hard to start because of the carberator set up. Some people have no problem starting them but mine are hard to start. I built starters that sit on the draw bars and hook to the pto. You put the pto in gear and start the tractor and then take the pto out of gear. It is in a nice metal box that looks good. The battery and all the parts are coverd so you can't tell what it is. At shows people are always asking what is in the box. If you want to take the starter off you take out 2 bolts and the whole thing slides right off. My email is open so you can email me from this post and I will send picturs and a explanation of the starter if you want to see it.

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Andy Martin

12-30-2004 19:54:51




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to trickie-mi, 12-30-2004 15:16:27  
If it's only been 5 years I'd put fresh gas in it and pull start it. You might be surprised.



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jason(ma)

12-30-2004 16:26:26




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to trickie-mi, 12-30-2004 15:16:27  
Start by buying the manuals for it, I would get a parts, owners and service manual. Rice Equip in PA is a good place to look, someone will have the phone number.



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NEsota

12-30-2004 17:37:26




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to jason(ma), 12-30-2004 16:26:26  
If your F12 has the original mag, it should connect to a 3/8 inch lever 4 inches long below the right side of the steering wheel. If turned to the left, that is OFF. If vertical, that is the start position and the spark is retarded, so that you don't get kicked when cranking, due to back-fire. Turned to the right is RUN. I am familiar with this tractor and you may call me to talk. 612.929-4011

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trickie-mi

01-01-2005 16:07:42




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to NEsota, 12-30-2004 17:37:26  
Ok, Thanks for the info. I need to figure out the starting sequence. The first thing that I need to do is flush the gas tank out and clean up the carb. Then I"ll check the points. I"" keep ya posted .



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NEsota

01-02-2005 10:49:08




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to trickie-mi, 01-01-2005 16:07:42  
The carb is connected to a "stand pipe" that pokes through the cover above it. There should be a brass vent in the top of it that screws out. If you pour gas in here and prime carb, then it will save the fuel pump some work.



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NEsota

01-02-2005 10:46:48




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to trickie-mi, 01-01-2005 16:07:42  
The carb is connected to a "stand pipe" that pokes through the cover above it. There should be a brass vent in the top of it that screws out. If you pour gas in here and prime carb, then it will save the fuel pump some work.



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tricki-mi

12-30-2004 16:34:38




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to Fawteen, 12-30-2004 16:31:06  
Last night I ordered a set of manuels on cd. I bought a parts, owners and a service manuel. Just waiting for em to arrive. Thanks!



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Fawteen

12-30-2004 15:27:19




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to trickie-mi, 12-30-2004 15:16:27  
Electric start was not a common option for the F12/F14. They exist, but they're somewhat rarer than an honest politician, and dang near as expensive.

As to getting it started (assuming it's not stuck) thoroughly clean the entire fuel system, change all the fluids, put a fresh set of plugs in it, clean or replace the points in the mag, spin her over with the plugs out to see if the mag is hot, maybe run a compression check and then commence cranking.

You might have better luck pulling it with another tractor until you find all the little bugs.

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trickie-mi

12-30-2004 15:41:59




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to Fawteen, 12-30-2004 15:27:19  
I can turn the crank fairly easy so the motor isnt froze up. My neighbor says he turned it over every once in a while. Are the magnetos easy to work on? Do they rust over? He restored the body work and kept it in good shape .I am the third owner of it. Once all of the bugs are out are these easy starting tractors? I love the old time look of this tractor. It h also has rubber tires not steel. Thanks

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Sloroll

12-30-2004 16:15:44




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to trickie-mi, 12-30-2004 15:41:59  
Like Fawteen says "if it ran when parked" Avoid taking the mag off if you don't understand much of how it works. Try brightening the points with a point file you may be lucky enough to just drag a dollar bill through the points to clean them a bit. Again like Fawteen says Pull it or belt it to another tractor to start the first time. I prefer belt. It will allow you to play with the carb and mag somewhat if you belt start it. The belt will run straight between the two tractors as an F-12 belt pully runs reverse of most others. Are you used to cranking a tractor? If not find a buddy that is and he'll show you how to retard the spark a bit to help keep you from breaking your thumb or head. All your fingers(thumb too) on one side of the crank and avoid spinning the crank if you can. Have fun. Those are neat little tractors! I've owned a couple 12s and two 14s. Fun! Fun!!

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trickie-mi

12-30-2004 16:40:29




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to Sloroll, 12-30-2004 16:15:44  
I have a Ford 860. Can I run a belt from it? Where can I get a belt and how do I run it from the 860? It only has a power take off. What do I need to make it work for using a belt?



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trickie-mi

12-30-2004 16:39:36




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to Sloroll, 12-30-2004 16:15:44  
I have a Ford 860. Can I run a belt from it? Where can I get a belt and how do I run it from the 860? It only has a power take off. What do I need to make it work for using a belt?



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Sloroll

12-30-2004 16:51:10




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to trickie-mi, 12-30-2004 16:39:36  
I don't know of a belt for that model tractor. A good belt tractor such as an H or an M would be best. The tractor and belt may have to be borrowed or just go ahead and pull it. with your Ford. I prefer a belt but puling the old girl will work too. After I rebuild I prefer a belt because I may have screwed up the timing or carborator on assembly. If this tractor ran when it was put away pulling will probably not be a bad way to go.

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trickie-mi

12-30-2004 17:40:40




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to Sloroll, 12-30-2004 16:51:10  
Ok, Thanks for the info. I"ll post back when she is running.



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trickie-mi

12-30-2004 17:39:52




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to Sloroll, 12-30-2004 16:51:10  
Ok, Thanks for the info. I"ll post back when she is running.



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Fawteen

12-30-2004 16:04:33




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 Re: farmall f-12 in reply to trickie-mi, 12-30-2004 15:41:59  
Frankly, I dunno much about magnetos. I sent mine out to be rebuilt cuz I KNEW it was junk. At a guess, I'd say if it worked when it was parked, and the points, condenser and wires are good, it oughta work.

Starting is tricky, mostly because of the downdraft carb. They'll flood at the drop of a hat. Also, the most commonly used plug is a Champion, D16 I think. They're junk, but I can't find the equivalent Autolite locally. Once you get the starting drill figured out, and use it faithfully, and keep the carb clean and the float adjusted, they'll start fairly reliably. If you flood it, just walk away until it evaporates, or pull it with another tractor. You'll never start a flooded F12 with the crank. BTDT...

BTW, most of them did, indeed, start on gas and run on either kero or "distillate". That's because at the time the kero was much cheaper than gas. Any more, it ain't worth it, and it's a PITA anyway. Kero doesn't make as much power, and if you forget and turn it off with a carb full of kero, you're in for a real treat trying to get it started again. Just use gas all the time, easier and cheaper.

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