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stuck clutch in a M

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M guy

12-30-2004 03:58:49




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what's the best way to try to unstick a clutch? I have a M that has frozen the clutch from sitting and I was wondering if there was a way to unstick it without splitting it?

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Will




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NEsota

12-30-2004 12:29:32




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 Re: stuck clutch in a M in reply to M guy, 12-30-2004 03:58:49  
If you get the rear wheels a little off the ground (using very stable wood blocking) and try the fifth gear and brake method this might be more sucessful because your brakes would not have to stop the foreward momentum of the entire mass of the tracktor.

When the above fails, with the wheels still off the ground remove the starter, lock the fly-wheel and one rear wheel. Place a log chain at the six and twelve oclock positions on the out side of the other rear tire. Connect pullers and pull carefully in opposite (horizontal) directions. I have not done this myself, do not know of anyone who has and disclaime all liability for anything that goes wrong.

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Andy Martin

12-30-2004 09:43:34




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 Re: stuck clutch in a M in reply to M guy, 12-30-2004 03:58:49  
Don't let some idiot fool you into thinking it will be easy to turn the clutch plate just because you have the belly pump out (if you even have one).

If he'd ever had an M apart he'd know you can barely even see the clutch plate buried in the flywheel behind the pressure plate. There is not much room to grab the transmission input shaft. And when the clutch is stuck enough that you know it, it likely means you've had it running and cannot stop the tractor by pushing on the clutch. That means you'd have to put enough force on the shaft that you can move the tractor. You'll have a tough time trying to free it by hand.

If you are uncomfortable using the brakes at low speeds like I suggested, by all means pull the clutch plate out, if it is in good shape clean it up and reinstall it or replace what is bad.

This is all assuming, of course, that you have verified it is adjusted so that depressing the clutch pedal will cause the throwout bearing to push on the pressure plate fingers.

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dej(JED)

12-30-2004 07:54:41




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 Re: stuck clutch in a M in reply to M guy, 12-30-2004 03:58:49  
Drop the pump and turn the clutch plate from the bottom. Once it seems to be traveling freely
start it up and try it. It really shouldn't take much. Don't listen to these idiots about hitting the brakes. You could get hurt really easily.



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farmalljim10

12-30-2004 04:17:17




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 Re: stuck clutch in a M in reply to M guy, 12-30-2004 03:58:49  
Get her going down the road in 5th then push in clutch and at same time jam on both brakes be carefull hope it works for you it did for me..Also regular Ms not super Ms with a factory size clutch can be reclutched without splitting tractor... That is what that coupling is for..But it is still more work than driving down the road..



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Andy Martin

12-30-2004 05:30:46




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 Re: stuck clutch in a M in reply to farmalljim10, 12-30-2004 04:17:17  
Be careful using the brakes. Unless you know they are properly adjusted left/right you can have a problem if you apply them too quickly going too fast. What is too fast? It depends on the conditions and your experience.

I would repeatedly pull start it and brake as soon as it starts, then kill the engine and start again, all with the clutch pedal depressed. 2nd gear is fine.

Some clutches will come unstuck and some won't. Some that come unstuck will break parts of the clutch lining off and cause the clutch to drag, making repair advisable.

M's and Super M's can have the clutch plate replaced without splitting the tractor, but the pressure plate won't come out on the Super M. Cleaning the flywheel face and the pressure plate face is a little tedious on the Super M but can be done. It is good to learn how to re-clutch an M without splitting it so when you have a minor problem you are comfortable jerking the clutch out.

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