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Paul Shuler

12-03-2004 14:36:06

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Put money down today on building me a shop on the 11 acres we bought a while back. I am so pumped. I have never had a place to work on my stuff or much less store it. Did my last tractor in my parents garage. It will be 36' by 40' with 12' walls and a 14' by 40' shed on one side. I will try and post some photos when it gets going.Its nothing fancy but it's mine.I'm sure I'll have some questions as it goes along.

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Pete L

12-06-2004 08:48:13

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

Couple items:

1) Route most of the outlets thru a heavy switch that is mounted out of the reach of your kids, or put a lockable cover over it. Flipping this switch as you leave will make sure all of your machines can be accidently turned on by the kids. Might have to incorporate a 220V relay if you have 22O V needs.

2) While dragging power out there, pull a phone line and also 2 wires to work a buzzer. That way, your wife can buzz you, then pick up a phone to talk to her.

3) Mount outlets 50" off the floor. That way, sheets of plywood leaning against the wall won't get in the way.

4) Outlets cost approximately $1 in parts. Put them every 4' in the area of any machines.

5) Outlets & lights need to be on seprate circuts so when breakers blow, you're not in the dark.

6) Think about an exhaust fan up high to rid heat/fumes/smoke.

7) Windows up high let in light, but are not a major security issue.

8) Thinking about a bridge or stiff-leg hoist at some point?

9) Think about storage trusses. Can gain a lot of off season storage floor space for the bulky lawn chairs, bikes & such.

Good luck. Build safely.

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Bill Griffin

12-05-2004 18:41:59

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

When I built mine I set a big v shaped piece of rebar in a pocket in the floor covered up by a metal plate. It is handy having an attachment point in the floor for a chain. Also, at the end opposite the door where I built a workbench, I buried a 6' I beam before I poured the floor, right flush with the front edge of that bench. I've had clutches stick before and this way nothing is getting past that I beam and through the back wall. Thankfully, I haven't had to try it out yet, but it's there if I ever need it. I heated with a ceiling hung propane furnace the first year, but went through a 100 gallon tank without ever really being warm so I put in a stainless steel chimney and a wood stove and that works better. If I ever get too old to mess with the wood, the furnace is still there. What I wish I had done, was to have run radiant pipes in the floor before I poured it. Then I could have built a heat exchanger for the stove and had a nice warm floor. I was in too big a hurry to get going then so I didn't do it.

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Jimmy King

12-04-2004 21:14:25

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

I don,t know what too tell you about lights, we put florisent in when we built it, and they suck. A few years ago I put 3 hallogens on each side and it realy lit the shop 20 x 42 x 12 with 24 snow load all steel, they did not last very long before they went bad?

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Jimmy King

12-04-2004 21:04:08

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

Paul, make sure your contractor puts plastic under the floor. That will keep it from sweating 95% or more of the time. My old shop the floor was wet a lot of the time the new seldom sweats.

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Jimmy King

12-04-2004 21:01:07

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

Paul, make sure your contractor puts plastic under the floor. That will keep it from sweating 95% or more of the time.

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Dave D

12-04-2004 19:58:34

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

Sweet! Here in NH I am SOOO jealous. Hell, I'd have to cut down four 80' hemlocks just to make space for a shop that size. But I'll do it if I win the lottery. Enjoy that warm, dry work space!

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larryw-tx

12-04-2004 09:43:34

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

Paul, think about 14' sidewalls, that way you have 12' clearance for door.

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SproutW

12-04-2004 11:31:19

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Re: Building a shop in reply to larryw-tx, 12-04-2004 09:43:34

Amen!!!! My father and I put up a new shop on his farm. We have 14 1/2 foot ceilings and trust me you will want them. Spend the extra money now and be sure to put in a good exhaust fan or hood in that shop. We built his shop with 2x6 framing and it is all insulated well. The smoke and dust hang in the air so give it a thought.

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Duane NC OH

12-04-2004 03:47:10

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

paul i can relate to this. we never really have a place to work on equipment. main barn was 3 sided. darn cold. finally built a 40x40x16 shop. 20x14 over head door and 20x16 sliding door on the end walls. full concrete and fully insulated and steel on the side. i can't believe how nice it is to work on stuff in a controled environment. i need to finish the electric and such. i also haven't figured out my heating source yet. right now the kerosene heater is working just fine. takes 10 minutes to being up the temp 15 degrees.

enjoy!

Duane

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Dale L

12-03-2004 18:46:03

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

congrads.. you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. My wife talked me in to building one about five years ago. One coment and two words of advice. Big John is right build it as big as possible,if your in a cold climate use a granite mix in your concrete[I didn't, my floor popped because of shale in the cement]. I heat my shed with a corn burner. The new models are pretty much maint. free and it beats splitting wood.

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farmallkid From ONT.

12-03-2004 17:55:33

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

We have Old barn, i think inbetween 80 and 100 years old. It keeps the chickens cozy and the tractors out of the rain and snow, not much room to work on them but it works. Someday i want to build a nice shop with a cememt floor with a big old wood stove in it, and sandblasting booth, and paint booth, Well maybe not them 2 things but we will see what happens. Have fun workin on them ol girls in your new shop once its done.

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BIG JOHN

12-03-2004 17:06:49

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

Just one work of advice. Call the guy that you put your money down with and DOUBLE the size of your new shop.

I know, I know, MONEY is the culprit that will keep you from taking my advice.

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Haas

12-03-2004 16:35:48

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

Congrats on your new shop!! You will enjoy it. I've been working all summer on mine and am finally getting to where I can work on tractors again. I envy the shed you are putting on the side. Mine is 30 X 42 X 12 ft ceiling. Building was contract, but I did all the wiring and plumbing myself. Had to run services from adjacent barn (I guess the barn makes up for your shed on the side). The barn used to be the shop, but impossible to heat and it is now just storage. Just got the propane heat installed in time to keep the bathroom from freezing.

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Paul Shuler

12-03-2004 17:04:43

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Haas, 12-03-2004 16:35:48

I will be doing all the wireing and plumbing on mine also. I'm going to put a wood stove in at sometime in the future for heat. It doesnt get all that cold here, and if it does I'll go to the house.I have a son and daughter that will both be driveing in the next year or so and I know the girl will knock me out of my parking spot in the garage hence the shed. Plus I plan on parking my trailor in there.

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Haas

12-03-2004 19:13:53

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 17:04:43

I considered the wood stove option. I even have a wood pile already, but I'm giving that away. Not that cold here in East Tenn either. I just did not want to have to fool with manual heating. I don't think it's going to use much gas even though I am leaving it on all the time. 50 degrees when I'm not in there. I've already passed the kids driving stage. I'm into Grand Children now. Sounds like you are getting ready to have a fleet of cars.

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Paul Shuler

12-03-2004 19:42:11

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Haas, 12-03-2004 19:13:53

A FLEET OF INSURANCE PREMIUMS !!!!! !!!!! !!

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Nebraska Cowman

12-03-2004 15:18:24

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-03-2004 14:36:06

i always envy the guys that have a warm clean place to work, congratulations!

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caseyc

12-03-2004 20:28:32

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Re: Building a shop in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-03-2004 15:18:24

i hear you cowman!!! i work in a 18x40 lean built on to my hip roof barn. gravel floor and not very warm when that ole' SD wind gets going! better than no shed i guess!

casey

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Harley

12-03-2004 22:31:34

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Re: Building a shop in reply to caseyc, 12-03-2004 20:28:32

Paul, good going, and remember, plenty of heavy duty electric outlets. I put in one about every 8 feet, and water. If nothing else to wash up with and ocasionally to put out that pesky acetylene torch fire over in the corner. Your 5-gal. bucket with water in it will invariably be empty when you need it. Harley

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