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Shane C

11-20-2004 16:57:09




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I have a 49 farmall H. The liftall started leaking this summer. It still works good but it is leaking. Can this be pulled and resealed, or should I buy a rebuilt one.




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Dave in CT

11-20-2004 19:13:56




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 Re: farmall H lift all in reply to Shane C, 11-20-2004 16:57:09  
I rebuilt one last winter. One of the high-pressure gaskets had blown. I'm not very experienced with hydraulics but this rebuild was easy. I didn't need to replace the oil seal but that doesn't look too difficult. I think you can expect all the rebuild parts (springs, balls, gaskets and the oil seal to come to less than $40.

Look in the archives for methods on removing the pump shaft female coupling (the slotted interface on the pump that the coupling - the bar with the sleeves that goes between the trans and the pump - fits into). The Blue Ribbon and I&T manuals talk about drifting the coupling out after locking the pump gears with 1/8" flat stock. I think this is a mistake. When I tried it I chipped the female coupling. There are posts in the archives about hooking up an pneumatic impact wrench to a made-up male fitting. Put the male fitting into the female coupler with the unit still attached to the reservoir and full of oil and the resistance of the oil will give enough back pressure to spin off the female coupling. I haven't tried it but it sounds less risky than the drifting method.

If your local library can do interstate library loans, you can get a copy of the IH Blue Ribbon Service Manual "Hydraulic Lift-All for Farmalls H, HV, M, MV, MD & MDV" (the IH number on the cover is GSS-5034) -- call number is 629.225 from the State Library of LA.

Careful while dropping the pump. I've seen posts talking about using lengths of allthread to lower it down. The thing is _heavy_ but I would imagine the allthread method would take forever. I used a rolling jack and blocks of wood. Safer and smarter still would be to have an assistant to help with the balancing as it comes down.

Happy rebuilding.

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Marlin M '51

11-21-2004 03:38:03




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 Re: farmall H lift all in reply to Dave in CT, 11-20-2004 19:13:56  
I used the air impact wrench method 2 weeks ago on mine and it worked great. Spun the drive off in about 2 sec. I welded a large nut to some 1/2" bar stock, then ground the sides of the stock down to fit the slot in the drive, put the impact on the nut.



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BIG JOHN

11-20-2004 18:47:26




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 Re: farmall H lift all in reply to Shane C, 11-20-2004 16:57:09  
Sure it can be rebuilt - No need to pay someone else for work you can do yourself. Get a manual for the Lift all and go for it. Be sure that you take into consideration that the unit is very heavy when you are taking it out of the tractor.

GOOD LUCK



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shane c

11-22-2004 17:17:35




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 Re: farmall H lift all in reply to BIG JOHN, 11-20-2004 18:47:26  
Okay thanks I have a book on order, and I've started to research how to do it...Thanks for the tips. I'm 35 and grew up on a farm with 70's and 80's model Allis Chalmers and Fords. This is my first older (no disrespect)tractor. Was a basket case but I'm slowly getting her back into good condition...Thanks again



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