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1 row I H cotton pickers

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Jess in CA

11-13-2004 16:08:05




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over the last few years i have been grabbing up old 1 row pickers and parts in my area here
whenever i can, but recently i picked up a #12
model picker unit & low drum mounted on a H tractor.this is a scarce model here in the san joaquin valley .what is the correct model # for this combination.

Jess in CA




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jess in ca

11-16-2004 22:51:58




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to Jess in CA, 11-13-2004 16:08:05  
Harold,
my single blower #12 type low drum H picker, the head is a bolted top. model #H M-14
the ser #1577 N.. i have another low
drum H with aluminum housing its a double blower model, its model type is stamped
M-24, ser #1239 M. i am not sure about
the M-24 number but that is what it says.
i have a friend with a low drum M picker and his model # is H M- 34. what does model M-24 tell you. jess in ca

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Harold H

11-17-2004 13:38:30




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to jess in ca, 11-16-2004 22:51:58  
I've never heard of an M-34 or M-24. In our area of sales we went from the M-12 to the 120 then to the two rows. Both the M or HM-14 and the M or HM-34 & 24 are new to me. Also never heard of a low drum M-12 but have heard of a low drum M-11 but have never seen one.

Harold H



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jess in ca

11-17-2004 23:32:00




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to Harold H, 11-17-2004 13:38:30  
Harold,
here is what i think on some of these numbers,
H M 1 4 low drum.
H M 34 low drum - 3 4 i think is for 300 - 400
the low drum i have with M 24 well i am still
scratching my head on that one,
all of my high drum heads have M 12 H. i would like to find a (one row) bolt on top high drum
head, i know there has got to be some around this area. time to take a sunday drive soon..
jess in ca

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JohnG(TX)

11-15-2004 11:26:36




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to Jess in CA, 11-13-2004 16:08:05  
Jess,
If you want parts, I have the remains of a 1-row picker for an H on the farm. I also have a 214 or 220 picker. They are both in south Texas. Might be too far for you for this kinda stuff.

JG



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jess in ca

11-15-2004 20:46:40




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-15-2004 11:26:36  
hello John G,
how much of the one row is left, is the low drum head still there? the main drive
assy for that picker only fits a(H) model, that would be interesting to get..is the basket lid in good shape. what is left.
the 214/or 220 could be exciting if it is a low drum model, there wasent a lot of low drum pickers out here. thanks, jess in ca



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JohnG(TX)

11-16-2004 06:29:25




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to jess in ca, 11-15-2004 20:46:40  
Jess,
The basket and most of the sheet metal parts are gone. The head, maybe a low drum, is still there. It has the aluminum top. I think the 214 is a low drum also. It has always been shedded, but still has some rust on it. Not bad for the area though. I can send some photos if you can email me back.

JG



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Harold H

11-16-2004 13:26:18




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-16-2004 06:29:25  
John,

If your head is a cast alunumum top low drum (14 spindles high) it is a H M 11. Not very many HM11 low drums's were produced. If it is a High drum it is probably a H M 12. Lots of 12's were built. Probably most of any one row model but all 12's were high drums (20 spindles high). Most 12's were on M's because the H did not have enough power for really big cotton. Most low drums you will find are probably 114's (bolted top).

Harold H

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JohnG(TX)

11-16-2004 13:50:06




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to Harold H, 11-16-2004 13:26:18  
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Harold,
Here is a photo of the head. The rest of the remains seem to fit an H since I have an M on the farm, and they won't fit it. I have the gear box that goes in place of the belt pulley and it is too small for the M's belt pulley drive. I have a manual for a cotton picker that looks kinda like this one and it is (I think) "M-14 and MD-14". The parts and layout look very similar.

A neighbor has part of a 1-row built on an M. It has a V-Belt pulley bolted to the PTO shaft. Does this sound familiar? I really don't know what type it was, the tractor is a 1945 M, and the picker head is gone.

How did you learn so much about cotton pickers? I am kinda intriqued by the ones around here. I am toying with the idea of restoring the old 214 on the family farm. Otherwise, they may haul it to the scrap yard. Do you have a parts manual for the 214?


JG

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Harold H

11-17-2004 05:11:22




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-16-2004 13:50:06  
John,

I have never seen a HM-14 but since you have a manual that is probably what it is. As I've stated most all Mississippi Delta pickers were high drums so I'm not that knowledgeble on low drum models. A low drum 11 head would look the same and the later 114 had the bolted top. Some places called the models H-M like HM-12 because most could be made to fit either H's or M's but we called them just M like M-12 or whatever because that is all we used under the high drum pickers, although there was a bull gear version of the H available.

Harold H

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jess in ca

11-16-2004 22:25:33




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-16-2004 13:50:06  
John G
it looks like a low drum from the photo,
the gear box is a single speed. all high drum 1 rows i ve seen were 2 speed,
but in later 1 row models i.e the 320, or mabey the 120-A they could of used a single speed on high drums. on the upper rear left side of the head there should be a small tag rivited to the aluminum housing, it will have 2 groups of numbers on it. model#,& ser#
it is a long way to go, but i ve gone farther
for less.for the head-gearbox-manual how much do you want for it? my email address is.
jsor58@sbcglobal.net jess in ca

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Harold H

11-14-2004 17:46:52




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 Re: 1 row I H cotton pickers in reply to Jess in CA, 11-13-2004 16:08:05  
Your low drum H mounted picker is probably a 114. They were available with both dual fans or single fans. There were very few low drums in the Mississippi Delta so I am mere familaier with high drums. Also after the 220 came out in 1957, very few new one row pickers were sold. If your low drum H picker has a bolted type head, vs the cast aluminum type head top on your M-12 it is almost certainly a 114. If it has the cast aluminum type head I think it could be a low drum #11 but I have never seen one of these.

Harold H

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