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mwkellner

11-10-2004 13:49:47




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I was mowing the other day and the tall grass was dragging the C down quite a bit. I noticed a fair amount of smoke coming out of the oil fillstack from under the cap. I checked the amount of oil and the oil pressure was good while mowing. Is this normal? or is the C running too hot? Thanks for your help as always.




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gusc

11-12-2004 22:19:49




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to mwkellner, 11-10-2004 13:49:47  
As rustyfarm says, you have blowby past the rings into the crankcase. This can mean worn rings or just too much load on the engine. (Lugging)

The metal mesh in the filler cap is to filter incoming fresh air to clear out all blowby fumes from the crankcase. You can have either a tube directly to the outside or a tube back to the engine air intake, either one is supposed to remove the blowby fumes from the crankcase.

Smoke is not supposed to ever come out this tube!

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JBlavl

11-11-2004 05:20:38




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to mwkellner, 11-10-2004 13:49:47  
I think Rustyfarmall might be confusing your question. The white smoke coming from your OIL FILLSTACK is normal under heavy loading. It's always happened on my Super C and I also have a 184 that does it too. If you take the cap off you'll notice there are holes in the bottom of it with a wire mess to allow for this breathing when the oil gets very hot. I think the other guys thought you were talking about white smoke coming from the exhaust which would be an indication of water in the combustion chamber. More of a blueish/black smoke would be an indication of blow by in the cylinders.

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mwkellner

11-11-2004 22:06:57




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to JBlavl, 11-11-2004 05:20:38  
JB thank you for answering my question. I was definitely talking about the oil fill cap, NOT the exhaust. I guess I'll just keep on mowing with it, I gather that there is not too much concern about serious damage being done. Thanks again. I love this board where I can get help, even if I don't have all that much to offer most of the time.



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John *.?-!.* cub owner

11-10-2004 18:28:27




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to mwkellner, 11-10-2004 13:49:47  
I believe hat on a C there is a tube that goes from the breather to the block. It provides a negative pressure to act like a pcv valve. If the pipe or it's fittings become plugged it will also cause oil smoke to come from the filler pipe when under a load.



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Peabody

11-10-2004 19:43:55




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to John *.?-!.* cub owner, 11-10-2004 18:28:27  
John, that tube exists on the H and the M, but not on the C. Like Rusty said, it's more than likely straight blow-by up through the oil ports from the oil pan, a sign of worn rings.



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rustyfarmall

11-10-2004 14:09:05




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to mwkellner, 11-10-2004 13:49:47  
It's called blow-by, an indication that the piston rings are wearing out.



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Allan in NE

11-10-2004 16:47:31




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to rustyfarmall, 11-10-2004 14:09:05  
Hey Rusty,

I wanted to jump in here and confirm what you are saying, but I figure if I say one more darned word about those little tractors, some of these ol' boys on here are gonna track me down, throw a line around me, and hang me out to dry! :>)

'Sides, you did a pretty good job of assessing the situation.

Allan



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Hugh MacKay

11-11-2004 02:39:26




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to Allan in NE, 11-10-2004 16:47:31  
Allan: And well we might hang you out to dry. In Super series as well 00 and 50. I will garentee you the little offset SA, 100 and 130 will log more hours of service and suffer more abuse than the larger Farmalls of the day. No they wont pull as much as the H or M. In the days when 130 was new we had an H, 300, 560D and a Cockshutt 540, along with the Farmall 130. I know we got better value for dollar out of 130 than any of the rest except the 560D.

My dad and I once hauled 157 cords of wood from bush on snow with bobsleds. The Farmall 130 did that task with 113 loads. I know as sure as I sit here the H or 300 would not have been faster or done it in fewer loads. My uncle farmed 100 acres milked 20 cows in the 1950s, and did all his work with a SA including pto baling. I'd be willing to bet no other Farmall has been asked to exceed its rating as much as A, SA, 100 and 130. Clearly you guys are out of line on your small tractor comments. I have nothing against big tractors, just if your going to buy them your best have something profitable for them to do or have deep pockets.

I will go along with you and rusty on the C, SC, 200, etc. tractor, just too much rubber on the ground for that little engine.

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NAS

11-10-2004 17:13:52




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to Allan in NE, 11-10-2004 16:47:31  
Big tractors are great for big jobs but if I broght in 100+ HP tractor to mow my 5 acres the wife would have me commited.



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Allan in NE

11-10-2004 17:21:53




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to NAS, 11-10-2004 17:13:52  
NAS,

Aw, that explains it!

Now, I know what is going on around here! One wife left me and this one sure looks kinda cross-eyed at me from time to time.

I'll fix it. I'm gonna get her that nice little 966 for Christmas! :>)

Allan



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rustyfarmall

11-10-2004 17:05:25




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 Re: smoke from oil fill stack in reply to Allan in NE, 11-10-2004 16:47:31  
Allan, they may want to hang me out to dry also, but I agree with you on those small tractors, not a thing wrong with them, and at times would be very handy, but any experience I ever had with them wasn't a good one. Probably because they were just too light.



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