Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Farmall & IHC Tractors Discussion Forum
:

Stuck countershaft nut

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
David in UT

10-27-2004 15:13:33




Report to Moderator

Well, I've just about reached my frustration point, and I'm about to call in the big guns, which sometimes gets me in trouble. So, before I do that I wanted to see if there's anything else I should be trying... Here's the deal:

I'm trying to replace the oil seal on the countershaft of a '40 M. I've dropped the lift-all pump (in fact, the tractor is split so I've got complete access through the clutch housing), but I can't seem to get the countershaft nut off. I've engaged two gears to freeze the tranny, and I've given it everything I've got with a pipe wrench and extra leverage. I've pulled hard enough with the pipe wrench that I've scored the nut with the wrench's teeth. It's not budging...

I made up a tool by welding a 2-inch piece of 1/2 square bar onto a big ol' inch-and-quarter nut. I can now put this thingey into the countershaft nut directly and then turn the tool with a socket. I'm about to hit with with an impact wrench to see if that will break it loose, but there's a little voice in the back of my head saying CAUTION!

I know these trannies were built to take a beating, but how much risk am I taking to breaking the two gears I've got engaged? I could try bracing the countershaft with wood blocking, but I might end up driving the blocking in so hard that I can't get it out...ah...just answered my own question: I can drive the blocking out when I reverse the process and drive the nut back on.

Any thoughts or words of wisdom?

Thanks,

- David

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Haas

10-27-2004 18:47:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stuck countershaft nut in reply to David in UT, 10-27-2004 15:13:33  
Just a piece of 1/2 inch barstock in the slot of the coupling and some blows with a hammer in the counterclockwise direction should break it loose. Or use the impact wrench as others said. The vibration of the impact wrench or the hammer blows do wonders to break loose stuck threads.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
David in UT

10-27-2004 16:24:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stuck countershaft nut in reply to David in UT, 10-27-2004 15:13:33  
Thanks guys...I'll let you know how it goes tonight.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
parts man

10-27-2004 15:37:37




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stuck countershaft nut in reply to David in UT, 10-27-2004 15:13:33  
The impact would be the way to go. The jarring action of the impact should shock it loose.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Andy Martin

10-27-2004 15:35:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stuck countershaft nut in reply to David in UT, 10-27-2004 15:13:33  
I'd take it out of gear and use the impact wrench against the inertia of the countershaft.

It is left hand thread or right hand?

I really don't remember.

The impact does a lot of good without having the shaft held solid.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
williamf

10-27-2004 18:44:57




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stuck countershaft nut in reply to Andy Martin, 10-27-2004 15:35:26  
It's good old standard American - lefty loosy, righty tighty. We have a blade retaining nut on the paper machine where I work that the German engineers decided needed to be reverse thread. About the time we started to be able to remember that it was backwards our thoughtful management got the shaft replaced with a standard thread so that we wouldn't get confused.
Wm



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy