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560? 806 PISTONS/SLEEVES

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Brock Lewis

10-26-2004 23:11:12




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hey, can anyone tell me how big of a piston and sleeve i can drop into a 560 diesel with out having to bore it out? 806? drop right in? use 560 rods? or use 806 rods also? ANY INPUT WILL HELP! PISTONS RODS, AND WHAT ROD WILL WORK WITH MY CRANK..IM DROPPIN USED PISTONS AND SLEEVES Puttin in new mains and rings. need to find a piston/sleeve combo Thanks email me or repond on here THANKS!




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Aces

10-27-2004 05:11:55




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 Re: 560? 806 PISTONS/SLEEVES in reply to Brock Lewis, 10-26-2004 23:11:12  
Brock first of the 806D had a different diesel engine than the 560 so nothing will work. Some combines had a bigger diesel engine then the 282 in the 560 but I don't think the had sleeves. The sleeves in the 560 are to thin to make bigger bore with boring it out.



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ChadS

10-27-2004 10:53:07




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 Re: 560? 806 PISTONS/SLEEVES in reply to Aces, 10-27-2004 05:11:55  
Aces, arent all the blocks the basic same castings from the diesels and the gas engines?224-301?? Just speaking on the gas blocks, the 560 and the 806 had the same stroke, rod and rod bearing. All of thr IH 6cyl pistons (besides the short stroked 460 224) had the same stroke in them from 263-301, all the difference was in the bore sizes. I am thinking along the same lines on the diesil engines as well. UNLESS the diesils are wet sleeved, and I dont think they are,,, Most of the differences was the head, pistons, and timing cover to adapt the diesel accesories, and filters. 806 engines were not sleeved, and ran on the block walls instead of a dry sleeve like the 560"s were. Yes, you can bore the 560 block out to 3-13/16 bore, and use the 806 pistons in place of the 560 pistons, use the 806 head gasket which is a bit larger diameter fire ring, so it fits the larger bore. I dont think the stock 560 pump will do you justice on this kind of set up, you may think of finding a pump off a combine 301D maybe from a 503, or a 715. this engine would be capable of triple digit HP if you tuned the pump in to it. Shoot add a turbo off an IH crawler, whoa man!! cheap hp. Best advice also on machine work to the block is when you have it bored, have them deck the block as well to make sure it has a level surface and not warped. It might help with holding in the head gasket with out blowing it easily like they were famous for. Same for the head surface as well. Years back, dad had a 560D with the 301 kit installed for a puller and a work horse, at one time it had a turbo on it, but was removed when we got it. had no trouble pulling a 4-16 pull type plow in 3rd gear, sometimes 4th! Was alot of hp for that 560, make sure the TA is rebuilt! ChadS

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ChadS

10-27-2004 11:01:12




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 Re: 560? 806 PISTONS/SLEEVES in reply to ChadS, 10-27-2004 10:53:07  
But no "drop in piston and sleeves" to do that with out boring the block.



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ChadS

10-27-2004 11:00:14




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 Re: 560? 806 PISTONS/SLEEVES in reply to ChadS, 10-27-2004 10:53:07  
But no "drop in piston and sleeves" to do that with out boring the block.



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