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460 throwout bearting/clutch stuck? How to tow?

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Mike Brekke

10-25-2004 21:39:36




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Just bought a Farmall 460 with a IH 2000 loader on it. 1961 with TA, 12 gal pump and the tillage gear. Most everything is in good shape except the clutch (we knew this before we bought, $2k for the package realizing that we might put another $1k in.) When depressed it grinds the last inch. Had it stuck in 2 gears at one point, reset to neutral with a tire iron, replaced the shift lever with one that was 1/2 longer on the bottom and that worked fine. Problem: On the way to the mechanic today (5 mile trip) I stopped to shift from 3rd to 4th and when I put the clutch in, there was no grinding noise. I was able to shift into 4th but when I let the clutch out the tractor didn't move. I am able to get the tractor in neutral and do anything I want with the clutch all the way in (e.g. run the PTO, loader, etc.) But as soon as I let the clutch out the engine dies, like it's under load. The tractor doesn't move forward or backward when in neutral or in gear when the clutch is let out. With the tractor on and the clutch in and the gear in neutral it will free-wheel. When in gear the tractor won't move. I don't want to spend time working on it where it is, would rather get it to the shop asap (now 4 miles away) and work on it there. After 2 or 3 times trying to let the clutch out and little waft of smoke we seen out of the left side hole right in front of the clutch. My neighbor offered to tow me to the shop with his 5388 (mmm, nice.) Can I just leave the tractor off and in neutral and get it towed this way? Or is it safest to have the tractor on and the clutch depressed while being towed? Comments, thoughts, suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks! -Mike

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Allan in NE

10-26-2004 03:07:00




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 Re: 460 throwout bearting/clutch stuck? How to to in reply to Mike Brekke, 10-25-2004 21:39:36  
Mike,

Like Jon says, you've got 'er stuck in two gears again. Remember, that tractor has live power.

Allan



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MagMan

10-26-2004 02:00:51




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 Re: 460 throwout bearting/clutch stuck? How to to in reply to Mike Brekke, 10-25-2004 21:39:36  
The transmission is locked in two gears take the shifter back out and put the sliders back in place. JON



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Mike Brekke

10-26-2004 10:46:07




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 Re: 460 throwout bearting/clutch stuck? How to to in reply to MagMan, 10-26-2004 02:00:51  
All 3 shift linkages are in neutral, verified twice.



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MagMan

10-26-2004 11:00:38




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 Re: 460 throwout bearting/clutch stuck? How to to in reply to Mike Brekke, 10-26-2004 10:46:07  
Are you sure there in nuteral and not all back or ahead or something that happens alot on my SM and its two gears ingaged at once unless one of your forks came off the gear and thats why it looks like its in nuteral. JON



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Mike Brekke

10-26-2004 11:04:20




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 Re: 460 throwout bearting/clutch stuck? How to to in reply to MagMan, 10-26-2004 11:00:38  
If that's the case, then my guess is one of the forks is off. I can shift between all gears with the clutch in. We are going to split the tractor twice once we get it to the shop. Can I tow with another tractor in this condition? Thanks!



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Andy Martin

10-26-2004 11:17:29




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 Re: 460 throwout bearting/clutch stuck? How to to in reply to Mike Brekke, 10-26-2004 11:04:20  
In your first post, you said the tractor would free wheel in neutral. If it will free wheel it is not in two gears.

Tow it like that, but shift the PTO lockout on the belly to disengage the PTO. Four miles is not so far.

You may have something broken. Does the torque amplifier seem to shift?



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Mike Brekke

10-26-2004 11:24:17




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 Re: 460 throwout bearing/clutch stuck? How to to in reply to Andy Martin, 10-26-2004 11:17:29  
The TA will shift, but it grinds like the clutch used to before it got 'stuck.' I have disengaged the PTO and made sure the TA lever stays in the drive position for towing.



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