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Buggy

09-29-2004 18:52:38




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In the process of putting a new battery box on my 49 Cub. It was gone when I got it and it looks as if it had rusted away. The old bolts are still in the holes and I have taken a cold chisle and cut just about all of the remains from the old box away. Lots of pounding and liberal amounts of penatrating oil. Bolt heads are misshappen. No welder and no torch. Any suggestions as to getting these bolts out other than tapping, lots of liquid wrench and time plus a good set of vise grips. Never had any luck with ez outs.

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ET

09-30-2004 13:07:37




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 Re: Rusty Bolts in reply to Buggy, 09-29-2004 18:52:38  
I have good luck getting out bolts with rusted heads like yours by pounding the head with the ball side of a ball peen hammer and swelling the head. Then I find a 6 point socket that drives on to the bolt head and loosen it up. You may have to ajust how fat the bolt head is with the hammer for a good drive on fit. I have always been amazed at how well this works.



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El Toro

09-30-2004 08:00:36




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 Re: Rusty Bolts in reply to Buggy, 09-29-2004 18:52:38  
Hi, You need to get a torch to heat those rusted bolts, then you can probably use vise grips to remove them after they're heated red hot. Hal



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gene

09-29-2004 22:05:09




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 Re: Rusty Bolts in reply to Buggy, 09-29-2004 18:52:38  
To to WWW.farmalcub.com and ask the question. That web site is devoted strictly to Farmal Cubs.

Do you have a 4 1/2 inch grinder? Perhaps it would be easier to grind off the nuts under the platform. When you install the new battery box using lock washers and nuts.



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George Willer

09-30-2004 07:29:32




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 Re: Rusty Bolts in reply to gene, 09-29-2004 22:05:09  
That would be true, except that the bolts are threaded into tapped holes in the axle housing. The same battery acid that corroded the heads also corroded the threads.

I've had good luck removing the bolts using a dull chisel in an air tool to rotate them out after heating. Maybe now is the time begin to equip your shop?

George Willer



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buggy

09-30-2004 09:56:17




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 Re: Rusty Bolts in reply to George Willer, 09-30-2004 07:29:32  
Just got a new compressor, looks as if I am going to have to get the air chisel, aka "Norwegian Torgue Wrench".



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John *.?-!.* cub owner

09-29-2004 20:19:46




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 Re: Rusty Bolts in reply to Buggy, 09-29-2004 18:52:38  
Sears and Autozone both sell an item called bolt out, or something similiar. It is a socket that has fluted corners and is slightly tapered with a slight twist to the flutes. They are great for gripping misshapen bolt heads and removing them. I first tried them on cub battery box bolts. Soaking with penetrating oil and using an impact wrench also helps with them.



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buggy

09-30-2004 10:04:19




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 Re: Rusty Bolts in reply to John *.?-!.* cub owner, 09-29-2004 20:19:46  
Good idea, just ordered a set from Sears. If I am going to slowly retire the horses I guess I am going to have to expand the tool box some. These new fangled power units seem to require a few more gadgets than a rasp, hammer, some nails and rivets and a comb and brush. I forgot binder twine and bale wire.



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Rudi

10-02-2004 16:46:09




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 Re: Rusty Bolts in reply to buggy, 09-30-2004 10:04:19  
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Buggy:

I agree with George, heat would be best. I too however do not have access to Oxy/Acc torches, so I have done what John suggests. My kids got me the complete set of Bolt Outs from Sears for Christmas and me birthday. Best gifts I got in years as far as usefulness goes.

Lots of penetrating oil - Loctite's Solvo-Rust Penetrating Oil works best for me. Soak em a few days then use the Bolt Outs. Slicker than can be!

Have a look at the Manual Server as well, there may be some help for you there.

Oh, for some reason the links aren't working so here is the url:

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JRB IN MAINE

09-29-2004 19:05:16




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 Re: Rusty Bolts in reply to Buggy, 09-29-2004 18:52:38  
find out what size bolts they are and drill a pilot hole then drill tap size hole then tap to reg size thread will clean out old threads.. next time just use propaine torch if you heat it longer than if you used a torch should be able to get bolts out



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K.B.-826

09-29-2004 18:59:51




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 Re: Rusty Bolts in reply to Buggy, 09-29-2004 18:52:38  
A torch would probably make the difference. Heat the area around the bolt, then turn it out with the Vise-Grip. Otherwise, you'll just end up rounding them off or breaking them, probably smash your knuckles in the process, just to have to drill them out.



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