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766 TA operation questions

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Randymes

09-29-2004 16:31:12




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Can the TA be shifted during operation and under load? When do I use the TA and how does it work?




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Dan 3588

09-29-2004 20:53:51




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 Re: 766 TA operation questions in reply to Randymes, 09-29-2004 16:31:12  
Just to underscore what Aces said. Don't be gentle with the lever. Pop it ahead and pop it back.



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K.B.-826

09-29-2004 18:54:48




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 Re: 766 TA operation questions in reply to Randymes, 09-29-2004 16:31:12  
The TA is basically a two-speed powershift. There are two different types of TA's, the mechanical, and the hydraulic. Bigger tractors like your 7 have the hydraulic TA. It is located between the engine clutch and the speed transmission. It is made up of the input shaft, a hydraulic clutch pack, a sprag clutch, and two different sized input gears. While the lever is ahead, the hydrualic clutch pack is locked up, locking the faster input gear to the input shaft, giving you direct drive. At this time the sprag clutch overruns, since that's what it is, a mechanical overrunning clutch. When the lever is pulled back, the hydrualic clutch pack disengages, and the sprag clutch is now able to transmit power. The sprag clutch is coupled to the slower input gear, which gives you the gear reduction. A hydraulic brake pack prevents the sprag clutch from overrunning at this point, so it is safe to travel downhill with the TA back, unlike the mechanical TA tractors, which will freewheel. The TA can be shifted on the go, under load. It is meant to help you pull through a tough spot by pulling it back, or start a heavy load by starting with the lever back and then shifting it ahead. It can also be used to give you a slower speed in each gear, say baling hay Low 3rd is just too slow, and Low 4th is too fast, use Low 4 with the TA back. It is not meant to be used as a brake, like coming in off the road with a full chopper box behind you and pulling back the lever for engine braking. This will fry the brake disks pretty quick. Don't be afraid to use it. The worst thing for it is leaving it in direct all of the time, as the sprages will always be overrunning and wearing away.

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CEB

09-30-2004 11:47:15




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 Re: 766 TA operation questions in reply to K.B.-826, 09-29-2004 18:54:48  
Excellent description of how a TA works. I was a little fuzzy on that myself. Thanks KB-826!



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Allan in NE

09-29-2004 17:33:18




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 Re: 766 TA operation questions in reply to Randymes, 09-29-2004 16:31:12  
Randy,

One sweet little tractor, that 7. Be proud you own her!

Allan



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Aces

09-29-2004 17:15:02




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 Re: 766 TA operation questions in reply to Randymes, 09-29-2004 16:31:12  
Randy The TA is a high low that can be shafted on the go. The hydraulic TA like you have will hold back going down hill, not a good idea to use it to slow down a load. How do you use it, if you are on a hard pull and need to shaft down when you think you have lost enough RPM pull the TA lever back. After you use it some you will get timeing right. When you get through that hard pull and the engine picks up RPM bush TA lever forward. If light load but the gear you are in is a little pull lever back. You can split the gears by running say in 3th TA back than in straight 2cd. Remember when you shaft the TA do it fast like a hot roder, never ease it.

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Novel Idea Guy

09-30-2004 07:34:22




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 Re: 766 TA operation questions in reply to Aces, 09-29-2004 17:15:02  
Another trick of the trade, if you need to slow down and the engine isn't lugging, use the brakes to get the engine to lug a little, then pull it back.

As was said above, don't use the TA to slow down a load, as in pulling the TA when going downhill with a loaded wagon behind you. That's a good way to blow it.



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