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IH 66 series tractor questions

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CAL in OHIO

08-30-2004 20:46:52




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Hey there. I have three random questions for the IH gurus.
1.Did the 1566 came with an optional differential lock. 2. Did late model 1466's have differential locks. ( I know the first ones did not have them.)
3. Are there any differences between white stripe and black stripe 66 series tractors other than just color.
Thanks in advance.




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Hugh MacKay

08-31-2004 02:11:44




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 Re: IH 66 series tractor questions in reply to CAL in OHIO, 08-30-2004 20:46:52  
Cal: I don't know the answer on the 1566. Black stripe tractors had upgrades on them that also came on later 86 series. I know in the case of 1066, black stripe tractors had larger rear axles and bearings.

Diff lock was always an option on the later models, and not a very good one. I don't remember exactly when it became an option. I ordered it on my 1066 in 1975. While I think it was some good, it would not hold on a hard pull. By the time the tractor had 3,000 hours on it I don't think it held at all. I bought my tractor with single wheels, and within one year added duals. My main reason for the duals is tractor was leaving wheel tracks behind disk or cultivator. The duals cured that, but created a new problem. They beat the brakes and front axle to bits. You live and learn but if I had it to do over, I would forget the diff lock and go 4x4. I've seen that 16" wheel on front of 1066 drop out of sight in soil and it didn't stop the tractor. I did a lot of custom work on new cleared land.

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p--c--y-1066

08-31-2004 07:30:23




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 Re: IH 66 series tractor questions in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-31-2004 02:11:44  
hey hugh i am not doubting you. but i have had 3 true blackstripe 1066 tractors, all three had the same axels and brakes as the older ones, we switched the 9 bolt hubs for duals back and forth, the only difference i know of was, 3 point adjusters, are like 86 series, single drawbar, and the seriel no is on oppisite side and on back houseing



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Hugh MacKay

08-31-2004 13:38:06




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 Re: IH 66 series tractor questions in reply to p--c--y-1066, 08-31-2004 07:30:23  
p--c--y1066: It is my understanding that the external part of axle is the same. Internally the axle is larger with larger and heavier bearings. I have never seen the parts book on this, but rather going on what I was told. Right here at YT discussions about 18 months ago.

My tractor was one of the last built before black stripes. It did have the single piece drawbar, about 2x4 solid steel.

You didn't mention diff lock, any experience? I have never seen one of these units apart. My understanding is they were not a mechanical gear lock like smaller tractors, but rather a wet clutch pack, similar to those in a IPTO.

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Matt K.

08-31-2004 06:58:08




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 Re: IH 66 series tractor questions in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-31-2004 02:11:44  
Hugh,as long as you mentioned it,how did those diff. locks work,the one on out 1066 doesn't seem
like it has much effect either ?



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Hugh MacKay

08-31-2004 14:16:14




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 Re: IH 66 series tractor questions in reply to Matt K., 08-31-2004 06:58:08  
Matt: They were not a mechanical gear lock like most smaller tractors. My understanding is, it is a wet clutch pack much like IPTO. I had a Deere about the same weight, less power, (about 100 hp)and the diff lock was very effective. Again it was the same type.

I always called my 1066 a costly learning experience. I needed the PTO horse power, at time of purchase I was not too concerned about drawbar hp. Problem comes when you try to put that much horse power on the drawbar it takes rubber and lot of it on our eastern soils. Dealer delivered the tractor on singles with tires loaded, then came a 25' cultivator and 20' disk with 20" blades. During tillage tractor would leave wheel tracks, enough it interfered with seeding. In the first 1,000 hours the 1066 ruined those rear tires. The tires had bulges large enough you could use high gear. IH dealer brought in Goodyear they replaced the tires, and I bought a second set and the dual rims. I did not put the chloride back in. Cured the tracks in the tilled fields, plus I had better traction with duals than I ever got from the singles with chloride, on tillage work, remember that. It will not hold true on hard roads or ground.

I then had a new problem on tillage work. Load one of those tractors with duals pulling, and it wants to go straight ahead. I started getting front end breakage, spindles, etc. My opinion tractors that size should be 4x4. So much easier on the brakes, if your not using them for turning. I have driven a few tractors since rear duals and 4x4 under heavy tillage loads. Definately the way to buy a 100 hp plus tractor.

I will add this though, if its tillage work you do go articulated.

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K.B.-826

09-01-2004 20:07:43




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 Re: IH 66 series tractor questions in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-31-2004 14:16:14  
Hugh, you've pretty much got it on the diff lock. Basically, it was a shaft that ran between the two bull pinions, splined to one, I think. Engaging the diff lock would lock up the clutch pack and lock the shaft to the other bull pinion. Those clutch packs were pretty light-duty until the late 86 series.



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