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Farmall H, oil in steering sector?

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John in Ct.

08-29-2004 20:23:24

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I think I read on this board once to put Lucas or STP in the Farmall H sector , I was wondering,would it make a Farmall H steer any easier? Is the Lucas or STP in adition to the 85-140wt oil or instead of in the sector? Also, which would be better and what type of Lucas could they of been refering to, I remember seeing a display once in the local auto parts store with a lucas demo once with a crank and some gears but didn't pay much attention? Thanks!!

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MN Charlie

08-30-2004 10:45:27

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Re: Farmall H, oil in steering sector? in reply to John in Ct., 08-29-2004 20:23:24

Years ago when I was working in an International Harvestor shop we started using corn head grease that was designed for the automatic lubers on heads and pickers. This grease was just thick enought that it would not quite pour at room temperatures.

Later I found that the Farmoyl Co. of St. Pul MN. was making a grease that they called "Fluid Gear Grease" This was a grease that was made and designed for slow turning worm gears and was resistant to leaking from a worn gear box.
Check out their web site at (www.farmoyl.com) look under greases, all the technical data is listed.

good luck

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John in Ct.

08-30-2004 06:23:03

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Re: Farmall H, oil in steering sector? in reply to John in Ct., 08-29-2004 20:23:24

Thanks guys for replying. It isn't that my H steers very hard, I was just wondering if there was anything else that may work a little better than 85-140wt. I have a good upper bolster pivot shaft, good bushings, new thrust bearing, good seals (Doesn't leak a drop) and I was just going to change the oil.

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Bob M

08-30-2004 05:40:55

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Re: Farmall H, oil in steering sector? in reply to John in Ct., 08-29-2004 20:23:24

John - If your H steers hard the problem is something other than the steering box lube. (Even with the steering box filled with grease an H should steer easy...I've had heavy grease in mine for years.)

Suspect instead an improperly installed or worn out bolster shaft thrust bearing. Try jacking the tractor under the clutch housing. If the bolster shaft drops more than about 1/8" as the front wheels come up and the steering now turns easy, the thrust bearing is the likely culprit. However if the steering is still stiff, could be a dry lower bolster shaft bushing or possibly a bent bolster shaft.

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MagMan

08-30-2004 04:55:35

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Re: Farmall H, oil in steering sector? in reply to John in Ct., 08-29-2004 20:23:24

I am taking an H apart to restore right now and its the first one I have seen with oil in the sector and no leaks. If the seals have not been changed you will just about have to put in greese The only thing is greese will not make it down to the bushings. I greese then I pour some oil in and let it leak out around the bushings. You will Have to clean it up for a few days but everything is getting lubed that way.

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Russ

08-30-2004 10:03:27

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Re: Farmall H, oil in steering sector? in reply to MagMan, 08-30-2004 04:55:35

MagMan has it; Grease with a little oil is best.
If you want an easier steering action, don't use the front end loader, take off the loader system, or install a make it work power steering system.
Be careful any of the above modifications may cause the operators arms and other musculature to attrify slightly to significantly. Stay with the original design if at all possible.

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Dave in CT

08-29-2004 21:28:55

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Re: Farmall H, oil in steering sector? in reply to John in Ct., 08-29-2004 20:23:24

I've a '47 H (in Hebron, where in CT are you?) that I tried to do the 'thicker oil might not leak out' solution in the steering box. It didn't work. I used some stuff that was billed as 600W a friend had for the rear of a model A. It still leaked out. All the posts I've seen from those who appear to have experience with this problem say pack it with grease.

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John in Ct.

08-30-2004 06:24:30

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Re: Farmall H, oil in steering sector? in reply to Dave in CT, 08-29-2004 21:28:55

Thanks for replying. I am in Colchester.

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