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Rod bearings on my 300

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Kelly C

08-27-2004 22:08:48




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Stupid me.
I have had this engine torn down for about year now. Cant remember what rod bearing goes with what rod. or on what spot on the crank shaft.
I have them in matched halfs when I took them out. Just cant remember where they go.

If I put the wrong set on a different bearing jornal. Will this be a big problem?
What about shining them up with some emery cloth?
Bad idea?
Putting in a used set of sleeves and pistons in this thing. Trying to finally get her running.

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scotty

08-28-2004 05:43:27




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 Re: Rod bearings on my 300 in reply to Kelly C, 08-27-2004 22:08:48  
Hi Kelly, Sorry to hear that the intake manifold gasket wasnt the problem on your 460.

On another note, I wouldnt use any emery on those bearings, if any grit gets onto that bearing material your gonna spin a bearing. Just my thoughts. Good luck.

scotty



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Kelly C

08-28-2004 07:13:33




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 Re: Rod bearings on my 300 in reply to scotty, 08-28-2004 05:43:27  
Thanks. I have seen guys shine up the jornals before so was just wondering.
Are these bearing expencive? Maybe I should just buy a new set.
How do you know what size to order?



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Gene

08-28-2004 07:35:45




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 Re: Rod bearings on my 300 in reply to Kelly C, 08-28-2004 07:13:33  
A new set of rod bearings won't break the bank. Check the prices from the advertisers on this board.

You will need a micrometer or a veneer caliper to measure each journal. You must mike each journal in several places, I usully go for 4 places, left and right side then again at 180 degrees.

Try the plastigage bit first. All you need is a torque wrench. You put a line of plastigage on the journal along the length of the journal, install the cap, torque. Remove the cap. The paper containing the plastigage has indicators along the side. You compare the indicators with the crushed plastigage to determine the fit/clearence.

Check the back side of the inserts for parts numbers.

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RussR

08-28-2004 09:12:28




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 Re: Rod bearings on my 300 in reply to Gene, 08-28-2004 07:35:45  
Gene's rite: Use the plasigage technique and get hold of an engine repair manual so you can review that section and do your best work. Put the emery on the side of your work area with a large poster that says NEVER USE THIS ON MAIN BEARING COMPONENTS. With emery cloth you will start from SCRATCH and toss the block in the PATCH. Good luck in your precision rebuild.



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scotty

08-28-2004 07:49:24




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 Re: Rod bearings on my 300 in reply to Gene, 08-28-2004 07:35:45  
Hi Gene, Thanks for elaborating on my post, didnt even think to mention, mike readings in different spots! As far as the venier caliper, I never use those things for any close measurement, the mike reading will get you within a half thousanth easy. My 2 cents.

scotty



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Gene

08-28-2004 17:28:07




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 Scotty in reply to scotty, 08-28-2004 07:49:24  
Concur on the venier caliper being less accurate than the micrometer.

Actually, It's only that two great minds run in the same circles. I read the query and typed up an answer. When I posted I discovered that you had said pretty much the same thing. There is only a few minutes difference in our response. Oh well, If I can't be first, second will do.

Gene



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scotty

08-28-2004 07:28:04




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 Re: Rod bearings on my 300 in reply to Kelly C, 08-28-2004 07:13:33  
Kelly, Easiest way to see what you have is to mike up your journals. They should all be the same unless someone at one time repaired just one.As the post below stated, a good check is to use plastigage to check your clearances.

As far as the polishing, you might be able to use some really fine Scotch-Brite, but I would be careful with even that.

scotty



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Gene

08-27-2004 22:26:29




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 Re: Rod bearings on my 300 in reply to Kelly C, 08-27-2004 22:08:48  
Install the insert sets then plastigage each journal. Swap the largest reading with the smallest until you get them fairly even.

Just make sure the inserts are clean, no damage. I wouldn't suggest polishing them.

Plastigage is available at auto/tractor parts stores. Get a stick of .001 to .003 inch - not expensive. $3 - $4, don't remember. One stick should be all you need.



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