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Saved the worst for Last. Grill repair.

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Steve W (NY)

08-27-2004 07:44:12




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Here is a pick of the bottom of an otherwise straight grill for my BN. It's the only think left in my restoration (the rest of the tractor came out great...pics soon). That whole bottom area is very weak, and rusted through. The lower bolt hole area is very good.

I'm not sure how to repair it. The easiest and cheapest woud be to just fiberglass it. I think I could do a pretty good job, and no one would ever notice it. The downside is that this seems the least permanent.

Second I guess would be to form a new peice of metal and rivet it in. I don't have a riveter, and am not handy at shaping sheet metal.

Third would be to have someone weld it up. I don't know who could do it in Western NY, and I'm not willing to ship it anywhere.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what worked for them?

Take Care
Steve

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gene b

08-27-2004 20:48:18




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 Re: Saved the worst for Last. Grill repair. in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-27-2004 07:44:12  
That does not look like to bad of a fix you can use BONDO along with fiberglass and cloth. The A and B grilles do differ at the bottom. You can purchase a new bottom but i would try the body putty first. I have had good results and fixed one so bad with rust you could see thru its on a mower tractor and looks fine good luck.



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Georgia Boy

08-27-2004 20:43:54




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 Re: Saved the worst for Last. Grill repair. in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-27-2004 07:44:12  
I repaired the grill on my A using fiberglass and Evercoat metal filler. I used a piece of plastic on the outside to keep the repair from sagging and to give it a smoother look, then peeled the plastic away. You can't tell that there were ever any rust holes. It looks terrible on the inside, though, and now that I have a nice air compressor and a grinder I'll take care of that. It would have been easier to find a replacement or a reproduction grill, but I really wanted to keep all the original parts no matter the labor involved.

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MagMan

08-27-2004 10:05:48




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 Re: Saved the worst for Last. Grill repair. in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-27-2004 07:44:12  
Hey Steve I am from westeren NY also where are you ? Do you know if an A grill is the same? JON



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Martin

08-27-2004 14:57:36




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 Re: Saved the worst for Last. Grill repair. in reply to MagMan, 08-27-2004 10:05:48  
the a and b grills are the same, actually, except for the fnal drives, narrow front and left axle extension, they're the same tractor



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Stan(VA).

08-27-2004 17:02:40




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 Re: Saved the worst for Last. Grill repair. in reply to Martin, 08-27-2004 14:57:36  
I don't have any body shop experience, but FWIW, I've done two like that. I would either wire brush or sand blast it inside and out, use a spray on rust converter, then fiberglass it from the inside. Use some sort of makeshift mold on the outside or the fiberglass mat will just sink through your hole (you get 3 guesses to how I learned that, and the first two don't count!). For these repairs I like the thicker fiberglass gel kits where you make a sandwich and apply it as a unit.

And the A & B grills are not the same. The B grill bottom sections are cut similar to the C grills for the different front bolster. You could probably recut the bottom of an A grill to make it fit, but your's isn't that bad. I'd just go ahead and fix it.
Stan(VA).

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scotty

08-27-2004 08:08:32




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 Re: Saved the worst for Last. Grill repair. in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-27-2004 07:44:12  
Steve, You might consider fiberglass mesh and repair that way. Mesh on the inside and filler on the outside. They also make that sheet metal piece as a replacement, but you would have to take it apart and re spotweld new one.

scotty



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Peabody

08-27-2004 09:42:44




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 Re: Saved the worst for Last. Grill repair. in reply to scotty, 08-27-2004 08:08:32  
I had a similar rust-out on my Super C grill. Seems like the perfect place for old wet bird nests to accumulate. My hole was not quite that big, but I backed it up with aluminum foil and used bondo on the front, several applications. Sanded out and painted, it looks new. I like Scotty"s idea of using the fiberglass mesh as the backup material.



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rustyfarmall

08-27-2004 08:06:12




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 Re: Saved the worst for Last. Grill repair. in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-27-2004 07:44:12  
Any good auto body shop should be able to repair it for you. Just pick one in your area with a very good reputation and go talk to them. Your other choice would be a brand new reproduction grill, which is available for the As, Bs, and Cs. I can"t remember the name of the company that makes these, someone else can fill you in on that.



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