656 ???

Allan is bidding plenty for a parts tractor.

I just cannot imagine anyone pouring fuel down the throat of one of these things. Those old M gassers were bad enough.

Ya didn't wanna forget to fuel at noon or you'd pack gas to the field before the day was over.

Whacha workin' on today?

Allan

Yes, when it gets below 0 I usually plug it in more to save the engine from the damage cold starting does than anything else. I use a time clock and have it set to heat about 4 hours before I plan to start it. I agree that the 282 wasn’t the greatest engine but my dad had a 560 Gas that he did custom corn shelling with until I bought the diesel. He used it once, and never used the gas again. See Allen’s response for most of the reasons.

One event comes to mind when I was using the 560 D on the feeder wagon and plugged it in outside on a timer on a grain bin. It was about -15 F (honest) that afternoon. I got the M on the loader started (not plugged in) and then went to start the plugged in 560. It was terribly grouchy about starting. It took me three tries before it started even though it was plugged in. I couldn’t figure out why until I unplugged the engine heater and checked the hose coming out of it. The hose was as cold as the temp outside. The heater had burned out! True story!!! From what I’m hearing and have heard I have a rare one and I’m gonna keep it, thank you!

'Spose I oughta jump in here and spill my guts a little before everyone gets the idea that I'm a little careless with the truth.

Never was too wild about those two 6 volt batteries run in series. So, I did one of two things: either swapped 'em for two 12's in full parallel or ran a trickle charger on 'em all night to keep 'em warm.

That tied with a 2K watt recycle engine heater, and the goofy things will always start like it is 90 degrees out.

Allan

There are some folks who just do not get along well with diesels. They just don't. They don’t quite understand ‘em and they just don’t want anything to do with the brawny beasts.

They don't like the noise, they don't like the smell, they don't like the initial cost of ownership & the resulting required maintenance and they just plain don't like anything ‘bout the old ‘rattlers’.

They wanna hit the key and go, just like with the family mini van; they want 'em quiet and they want 'em smooth.

And, just as you and I like our diesels, that is their prerogative to admire the gassers. More power to ‘em, I say; it's okay by me, it is totally their affair and it's their business.

I'm in your camp however & I'm older than dirt, but I’ve never ran across an IH D282 yet that wouldn't run cheaper, last four times as long, or out-lug it's gas counterpart and yes, even ALWAYS start at 30 below zero.

Ya just gotta love the old hammerin' things! Did I mention that I like IH diesels? :>)

Best to you and yours,

Allan

Alot of people hold that against the gas engines, I think people can accept the diesel since it runs so cheap.

I guess I'm havin' a problem imagining what you are comparing it to (or something?). :>(

Gotta remember that the little fellers are only what? 58 horse or thereabouts?

I think that for their size, they really shine when they are put in the harness; and yes, you're right; they have got to be wound up.

But, wait a minute. Maybe you and are are kinda disagreeing over an empty basket here. That 706 is a somewhat heavier built rig and maybe they were all just a little underpowered?.....Dunno, as I've never been on one.

Further, I gotta agree with you on the 560..they certainly were no "power house" by today's standards by any means and were really just one jump ahead of an MD.

But, all in all though, I maintain that when the 282D is strapped into a 656, they are one gutsy little rig for their size when they are tuned out right.

Who knows? Iron is just iron, as they say.

Top o the day to ya,

Allan

Allan

(And hope I can find someone with a spare engine to take it off my hands, as I don't own a fuel tanker nor do I want one.) :>)

Naw, second thought: $900 :>)

Allan