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Farmall H drawbar strap

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John in Ct.

08-19-2004 19:34:11




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I picked up what I believe to be a nos drawbar strap for my Farmall H. Is it supose to be a little wider than the drawbar itself? What is used to hold it from swinging side to side? If I use bolts there is a little slop from side to side, how much slop is ok? My drawbar moves in and out too. Also, if I am to use bolts, do I have to put them on with nuts or just drop them in the hole, the reason I am asking is if there is some slop between the strap and bolt and the bolt moves too when the drawbar rubs against it, will the bolt holes get bigger over time? Was there a one piece part (Like for the roller) to hold the strap in place? My H had the drawbar ontop of the U drawbar held in place with the part called the drawbar extention pointing to the front of the tractor.

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Paul in Mich

08-22-2004 11:58:36




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 Re: Farmall H drawbar strap in reply to John in Ct., 08-19-2004 19:34:11  
John, The swinging drawbar goes under the "U" shaped drawbar and the strap goes over the "U". This was the standard configuration, however there is a roller assembly which replaced the strap which was an option. There are many functions of a swinging drawbar, thus the many holes in the "U" shaped drawbar. The swinging drawbar can be limited in the amount of swing by the width placement of bolts that the operator can drop into the "U" bar. It could also be fixed into a rigid position in the center position or offset from the center position which was handy for some impliments where tracking was critical relative to implement position to the tractor. The swinging drawbar also allowed, in many instances, the ability to turn tighhter corners and make sharper turns without interference between implement and rear tractor tire. Most farmers simply dropped bolts in the U'bar, but in some instances it would serve well to install nuts on the bottom. Square head bolts work best because they create a bigger surface for the swinging drawbar to rest against and prolong the process of wearing into the swinging drawbar. A little slop isnt going to hurt anything. Front to back movement is normal as the wrist pin holding the swinging drawbar is not a tight fit and the hole will normally elongate womewhat, but it isnt something to be alarmed about. A lot of people have removed the swinging drawbar and hook up equipment and implements directly to the "U" bar, but unless there is a particular implement that requires such hookup, it is ALWAYS best to hook onto the swinging drawbar as it provides a distinct function in that the swinging drawbar pulls from ahead of the rear axle rather than behind it as would hooking onto the "U"bar do, thereby assisting in keeping the front of the tractor down. Most tractors have enough power to walk the gears which brings the nose of the tractor up and sometimes over instead of keeping the nose down. I hope this answered your question.

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John *.?-!.* cub owner

08-20-2004 08:11:27




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 Re: Farmall H drawbar strap in reply to John in Ct., 08-19-2004 19:34:11  
We always used a clevis on each side to stop ours form moving. Never new they made a special holder until just recently. The top strap on our H drawbars were the same width as the drawbar, could you have gotten one for an M?

Regarding the drawbar moving in and out, is the hole in the end where it pins under tha tractor worn, or possibly the pin worn, or the wrong size?



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msb

08-19-2004 20:49:47




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 Re: Farmall H drawbar strap in reply to John in Ct., 08-19-2004 19:34:11  
Don't know if it was an aftermarket item or not,but I have a "U shaped"double pin that has a u shaped place in the top that fits down on the roller of the swinging drawbar.Fits perfectly and stops the "slop"in the sideways movement.Also has a handle on the top of it.Have seen them since I was a kid fifty years ago.



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Farmer Bob

08-19-2004 20:15:16




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 Re: Farmall H drawbar strap in reply to John in Ct., 08-19-2004 19:34:11  
Normally, (95%)of operators just used two bolts to hold the swinger drawbar in place. The bar was normally placed under the U shaped bar and the strap was bolted onto the swinger bar and supported the swinger. Several wear points could be experienced; both sides of the swinger and or strap where the loose bolts rested and another was the hole in the mounting end of the swinger would become elongated over time giving you the forward and backward movement you described.

There was an aftermarket (I believe) clamp or horseshoe looking part that was used in place of the two common bolts and I'm sure many farmers made their own out of scrap iron to keep the swinger where they wanted it.

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Novel Idea Guy

08-19-2004 21:11:19




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 Re: Farmall H drawbar strap in reply to Farmer Bob, 08-19-2004 20:15:16  
I"d be more inclined to believe that farmers just used whatever bolts were handy on either side of the drawbar, and lived with any slop. That"s all we ever do with our Super M. The drawbar moves a bit in every direction, but it"s never caused a problem. Remember, the drawbar is SUPPOSED to swing free when you"re towing tillage equipment.



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Richard E.

08-22-2004 07:23:04




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 Re: Farmall H drawbar strap in reply to Novel Idea Guy, 08-19-2004 21:11:19  
The drawbar is "suspose to move ?" Does this help in turning: dragging or discing ? Just wondering.



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