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Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled

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Steve W (NY)

08-11-2004 06:52:28




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There is a picture of a Farmall BN rollover posted by a Richard in the Stuck and Troubled section. He wrote "Another photo of the BN that rolled while I was mowing. Watch out for those narrow tractors and tricycle front ends!!"

In the picture marked "Rollover Farmall B", you can see that the left axle casting from the B or BN had been removed and the drawbar was replaced with parts from an A. You can see that the motor is almost aligned with the front and rear tires. It appears the rear tires are set in tight, and there is no wheel weights.

To blame that accident on the tractor is just silly. The person who put this together ought to consider his contribution to the gene pool and not reproduce. Ok, maybe that's a little strong, but come on. That is one of the dumbest things I have seen. A BN or B with a regular axle casting is as stable as an A. To have made this modification was just asking for trouble.

Just had to get that off my chest.

Take Care
Steve

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gene b

08-11-2004 18:05:09




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-11-2004 06:52:28  
There are several of those type conversions around here but we have people who know how to use them.



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Steve W (NY)

08-12-2004 05:54:30




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to gene b, 08-11-2004 18:05:09  
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Apparently Richard isn't the only one to try this. Here's a pic of another one that is similar. At least the caption reads that the right tire is weighted, and it looks as if the ground is relatively flat.

Gene....I think that there are probably peopl that might have been careful enough not to flip a modification like this, but there has always been a concern that tricyle tractors are easier to tip, and here we are taking the only stability away. Seems to me it's like an accident waiting to happen.

No different than the guy who removes a PTO guard and says....I'm smart enough to not get hurt, next hing you know, a family member gets hurt.

Look.....I'm no safetycrat, but I just want to bring attention to everyone to use his or her own noodle, before something like what happened to Richard happens to you.

Take Care
Steve

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26Red

08-12-2004 07:56:08




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-12-2004 05:54:30  
I have seen several of these BN Farmalls around my area. Did IH really sell these like this from the factory? I thought Farmall Bs were supposed to be narrow fronts with equal length rear axle shafts?



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old don

08-11-2004 17:59:03




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-11-2004 06:52:28  
Steve, I gotta tell ya I saw that picture in S&T and somethin didn't look right but other than the tires I couldn't put my finger on it.Good piece of work Steve, thats kind of like tying a stick to a bowling ball. All it would have taken is for the inside tire to drop in a low spot on the side of the hill and the rest is history. I still say every kid in school should be required to take Physics 101 and maybe a lot of these types of accidents would be averted. It looks like if he would have been going the with the right wheel going on the down side he would have been ok. Very observant!

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rustyfarmall

08-11-2004 07:55:51




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-11-2004 06:52:28  
Also noticed those smooth rear tires, probably didn't have enough traction to travel straight up and down the bank so he traveled perpendicular to the slope, and then the tractor just slid out from under him. A combination of all the errors mentioned would spell disaster anytime.



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ffolkes

08-11-2004 07:42:13




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-11-2004 06:52:28  
What is the wide in inches of a BN?

Thanks.

ffolkes



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lee

08-11-2004 07:32:40




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-11-2004 06:52:28  
The guy is lucky to have survived. I hope he did anyway. If he did he'll be looking for some parts to widen that. Two old farmers have met their maker in rollover accidents this summer in our area.



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scotty

08-11-2004 07:25:21




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-11-2004 06:52:28  
Shear stupidity, and a waste of good parts!

scotty



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scotty

08-11-2004 07:45:52




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to scotty, 08-11-2004 07:25:21  
I would like to retract the stupidity part of my last post, thats not apropriate for this forum, and would like to apoligize! Hopefully the fella is OK and didnt get injured!

scotty



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David B

08-11-2004 06:57:21




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to Steve W (NY), 08-11-2004 06:52:28  
How do you roll one of those old tractors, anyway? I mow my yard with a Super C, and my yard is anything but flat, with steep banks. Plus, B's and even BN's are wide and that gives stability.
Some people...



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ken2

08-21-2004 00:21:43




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to David B, 08-11-2004 06:57:21  
Rollovers are easy on my land, especially with a tricycle front end. Doesn"t take much, just a second of not paying attention, or getting flustered and accidently pushing the throttle forward when you were lunging to grab it from a sudden 40 degree tractor angle and pull back. I got rid of my tricycle fronts and changed to adjustable fronts on both my Cs, I lost the turning radius, but I feel a little safer. I have hills and boulders. When a rear wheel suddenly climbs a slanting boulder hidden in waist high meadow grass or barley that you forgot was there, a tricycle front end can kill you. I have also slid my rear wheels halfwzy out the axle from the in close arrangement they had when I got the tractors. I also moved out the front ends to match them. Mowing on the side of a hill you want all the stability you can get. Stay in first gear when doing things around boulders or slopes. In other faster gears you won"t have time to react if a mistake is made. I haven"t rolled anything, but I have come close (especially during the first year I had this place and had no idea there were boulders and two foot drops in yonder meadow with all that tall grass), and people in this area (Blue Ridge Mountains) have died from both rollovers and sudden back flips. We also get sink holes in the karst topography around here and a few years back someone had one open up under their H. That"ll test your reflexes.

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Tommy H

08-11-2004 17:22:29




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to David B, 08-11-2004 06:57:21  
Although I have yet to start or ride my Project '49 C, I must say that eve nwith both rears close to the tranny, it would be very difficult to roll one.



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Bus Driver

08-12-2004 04:52:13




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 Re: Farmall BN rollover in Stuck and Troubled in reply to Tommy H, 08-11-2004 17:22:29  
I hope you will always be able to have that (mistaken) belief. I also believed that it would be very difficult to turn over a tractor. My belief changed quickly and permanently in 1974.



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