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Where's best to add a hydraulic filter to my 364?

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Greg

07-30-2004 21:06:48




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I want to add a spin on hydraulic filter to my IH364 diesel. Although these tractors are very similar to the 444's that came with a hydraulic filter, the 364's did not. I am trying to figure out which line to put it in. I don't want it in the suction line I assume since it could impede oil flow to the pump. I want it in the return line don't I? I think this is right, but I am confused on which line is the return line. The previous owner added 2 remote hydraulic valves. They are "stacked" one on the other. A line runs to one of them directly from the hydraulic pump. The 2 remote valves are connected then a hose runs out of the 2nd remote valve to the fitting just below the seat, between my legs just behind the gearshifter. Is this the line that is the return and would never see enough pressure to blow off a spin on hydraulic filter? Where can I easily by a kit to do this?

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lee

07-31-2004 14:33:18




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 Re: Where's best to add a hydraulic filter to my 3 in reply to Greg, 07-30-2004 21:06:48  
The mesh filter is in the housing on the suction side as posted prior. The most intricate elements of the system the pump and the control valve internal to the housing. There are 5 or more return ports to the reservoir associated with the control valve. Any additional filters you add should go in the suction line to the pump. It would seem too little too late to filter in a return line from auxilliary valves. The mesh filter in the housing on the suction side would seem sufficient.

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Big Don

07-31-2004 06:27:39




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 Re: Where's best to add a hydraulic filter to my 3 in reply to Greg, 07-30-2004 21:06:48  
Greg,
The 364 came with a filter in the form of a fine mesh screen on the end the suction pipe inside the hydraulic reervoir. That should be all that is needed.If the screen is damaged, just replace it.
On the two extra valves that are added to your tractor, is there a third line that goes from the added valves to the rear of the hydraulic resrvoir? If not, then it probably isn't hooked in properly and could be a potential source of severe problems. The third line is a power beyond port and is needed in that system or you effectively have no relief valve.
Don

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Greg

08-01-2004 12:16:06




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 Re: Where's best to add a hydraulic filter to my 3 in reply to Big Don, 07-31-2004 06:27:39  
Yea, Big Don and Lee, I knew it had a screen in the suction line, I just wanted to add a spin on type that would filter finer particles more completely. There is a pressure line running to one remote valve, then the other remote valve is tied to the "out" port on the 1st remote valve. Then it's "out" port has a hose running to the reservoir in front - below the seat, just behind the gearshifter. These remotes were rigged up years ago by my friend, the previous owner, so we could run a ground driven hay rake that needed hydraulics to lift it up for road travel. It has always worked fine. But, I just wanted additional filtration. I can tell the line going to the "in" port on the 1st remote is a pressure line because when you actuate the remote the hose buckles with the fluid pressuring up in it. The hose coming out of the 2nd remote never gets "jumpy" with tension so I assume it's just a return. It would be very easy to put a filter in this line since it's already just a hydraulic hose. Am I making this clear as mud? This is an "open center" type system isn't it?

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lee

08-01-2004 20:23:05




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 Re: Where's best to add a hydraulic filter to my 3 in reply to Greg, 08-01-2004 12:16:06  
Most wood splitters have screw on filters. I think they are in the suction line. If you could get a screw on filter in the suction line it would filter all the oil before it hit the pump and be of more benefit. Just a thought.



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