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Allan in NE

07-20-2004 07:41:11




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Hi Everyone,

Got a call from my brother down in Florida yesterday who had just bought a new Jeep Grand Cherokee equipped with a 6 cylinder.

He was a little surprised to find that old IH 258 6 cylinder in it. The same engine we used to have in an old ’59 farm truck. :>)

The good ones die hard!

Allan




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Buzzman72

07-20-2004 08:30:37




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 Re: IH 6 pop in reply to Allan in NE, 07-20-2004 07:41:11  
Well, you're sorta right and sorta wrong about the ancestry of that engine. While IHC used the engine in the Scouts--the ONLY series of sixes used in the Scouts--and the pickups, it originally debuted in 1964 as the 199 CID AMC "Typhoon" six. It grew to 232, and then 258 cubic inches...and, in the Jeep trucks, gained fuel injection and shrank to 4.0 liters (244 CID).

But they were tough as nails, and as the government emission requirements became stricter in the late '60's and early '70's, IHC realized they could BUY the engine from AMC a lot cheaper than they could make their own line of sixes emission-compliant. As an IH truck fan AND a former AMC/Jeep parts person, I used to chuckle when I'd see Gremlins and Pacers with engine parts with "IHC" casting marks on manifolds and such (part of the deal...IH did some of the foundry work...that way, less cash changed hands).

The primary difference between the IH version and the AMC version was that IHC used Holley carbs, while AMC stuck with Carters.

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Allan in NE

07-20-2004 10:09:10




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 Re: Re: IH 6 pop in reply to Buzzman72, 07-20-2004 08:30:37  
Hi Buzz,

If you were an AMC parts man, then you know full-well that they have never, ever used anything of their own design, just their own part #'s; GM & Chrysler trannys, Delco electronics, many Ford starters and IH engines. This method goes clear back to the old Rambler days.

A Torque Flite is a Torque Fiite is a Torque Flite no matter the who's name is on the hood.

Pull a turn signal switch out of any AMC product....pure and simple GM stuff.

No, it is AMC who is doing the cloning. Always has been. Just because they changed the valve cover(s) doesn't mean they they have a totally new engine.

Me thinks they brain washed ya,

Allan

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scotty

07-20-2004 07:46:36




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 Re: IH 6 pop in reply to Allan in NE, 07-20-2004 07:41:11  
Hey Allan, That was a great motor! I bought a 1978 CJ-5 Jeep brand new and that was the motor I had. Lots of power and very dependablr, wish I still had it!

scotty



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