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Trailer for hauling an M???

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JC

07-17-2004 17:01:21




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Looking for a little advice here. I have had an M for a little while and am interested in hitting some of the shows, etc. I'm in the market for a trailer and have come to a few conclusions as to what I think I need, and just want to solicit some opinions as to what others use to haul their tractors. Also any particular trailer brands people are thrilled with or would stay away from? Thanks in advance for your opinions.

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jed

07-19-2004 05:30:48




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 Re: Trailer for hauling an M??? in reply to JC, 07-17-2004 17:01:21  
I haul my M with an 18 foot bumper pull. My 2001, 1/2 ton GMC 4 x 4, with a 327 engine has no problems pulling it or stopping it.



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lee

07-19-2004 08:52:00




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 Re: Re: Trailer for hauling an M??? in reply to jed, 07-19-2004 05:30:48  
Got any brakes on that trailer? You are a courageous man. You have that on the bumper ball?



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49 Cubber!

07-18-2004 07:58:53




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 Re: Trailer for hauling an M??? in reply to JC, 07-17-2004 17:01:21  
tell ya what I have done,I ahve a 12000 cap. trailer,maybe 16000,cant recall right off the top of my head,brakes on both axles. Ihad to dish my wheels in and scoot them in to like 84 or 82 inches to get it to go between the fenders.I like the look as well.When i first got the trialer I had a 98 Cheby Z71,bought a WD hitch and it pulled it just fine,braking wasnt too big of a deal,just set my comtroller a little higher,I used it on another trailer that Ihaul my smaller tractor with. Inow have a f-350 dually with powerstroke and I swear my Cheby pulled it alot better than the Ford.I couldnt run 85 up the highway wth the Cheby but managed a good 65-70 with the air off.At least with the dually I run the air.

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lee

07-18-2004 09:05:01




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 Re: Re: Trailer for hauling an M??? in reply to 49 Cubber!, 07-18-2004 07:58:53  
Don't know much about Chevy but I think that's a 1500 series 4x4. Just guessing, I doubt it's the short box version. Standard 1/2 ton version or extended cab? 350 motor? Longer wheel base trucks tow better it seems. 4x4 vehicles seem better suited. I havent really found a good way to determine towing capacity for different make trucks. Do they spec towing capacity anywhere? The VIN number for a vehicle has a code for GVW but I haven't seen where manufacturers really spec out towing capacity. GVW for the tow vehicle refers to the weight of the tow vehicle
and the load directly on the tow vehicle. It doesn't speak to the tow load as far as I can figure. So I guess it's whatever we dare pull with em. 12,000 cap trailer would seem a bit much if full loaded. You had maybe 8,000 (just guessing 3,000 trailer, 5,000 tractor) total so probably OK for that truck. I know my full size Bronco with 5.0 motor doesn't handle my 10,000 dump trailer worth a dang with any kind of load on it. Short wheelbase truck, small motor what can I expect. My buddy's Chevy 2500 4X4 with the big motor and allison trans has no problem full loaded 10,000 dump trailer. That truck seems to be a pretty good tow vehicle.

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49 Cubber!

07-18-2004 10:37:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Trailer for hauling an M??? in reply to lee, 07-18-2004 09:05:01  
350,short bed,extended cab 4X4.Trailer weighs in at 2100,varies a little between different scales,16 ft long including dovetail.With M on I weighed in right at 10000 I think it was.(Maybe 11000)

Dont know what the Ford weighs in at,I hadnt worried about it.



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lee

07-17-2004 22:15:19




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 Re: Trailer for hauling an M??? in reply to JC, 07-17-2004 17:01:21  
You could probably haul it on a good 7,000 GVW trailer, you are probably right at the rating limit for that, but I would say 10,000 would be a better choice as you will have extra load capacity as well as larger brakes. Disadvantage is typically more trailer weight. 14 foot long probably absolute bare minimum, guessing here, 16 foot probably haul better, typically deck over style trailer will get you wider cheaper but then you have the tall deck. I would prefer a low profile trailer if it can be found in a suitable width between the wheels for your needs. It will likely be more money than deck over style. They load easier, haul nice, very stable. 3/4 ton or bigger truck, 350 or bigger motor, appropriate hitch, I would go with electric breaks not surge, I don't think you really need a goose neck but they do work well especially in the larger sizes. Bigger is generally a good thing when hauling heavy equipment but realize you need a truck that will pull the rig.

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CNKS

07-17-2004 18:11:45




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 Re: Trailer for hauling an M??? in reply to JC, 07-17-2004 17:01:21  
I don't own a trailer, but I have rented several. If you use a tandem axle (car trailer), you will have to have at least one wheel dished in or it won't fit between the fenders, so for shows you will have to have both wheels dished in. Assuming the trailer weighs 2000 lbs and your M 5000, you are at the max gvw for two 3500 lb axles. So, for a car trailer, you really should be looking at more capacity. I have rented both 7000 and 10000 lb capacity. The 10000 lb ones weigh about 3000 lbs, that's getting too heavy for my half ton even with an H. So you need a minimum of a 3/4 ton truck and a 10000 lb GVW trailer, unless you can find one rated between 7000 and 10000 lbs. A small goose neck would be better.

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chris

07-17-2004 22:52:26




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 Re: Re: Trailer for hauling an M??? in reply to CNKS, 07-17-2004 18:11:45  
i agree that a gooseneck is better.its easier to manuver for me. if you do get a goose. definately a 3/4 ton truck and try to find a local welder to make a "homemade" under bed plate for the ball i feall that they are stronger. i also prefer a screw in ball.



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