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Deer Monseiuer...IHC Corn Planter?????

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Red

07-15-2004 20:25:11




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Anyone ever heard of this Deer Monseiuer corn planter which is dated around early 1900's and has a wire roll on board so that you could line up your rows as you plant and then cultivate both ways.( according to an old-timer IHC fellow)




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J. Schwiebert

07-16-2004 06:40:19




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 Re: Deer Monseiuer...IHC Corn Planter????? in reply to Red, 07-15-2004 20:25:11  
A good friend of mine is working on one. It is either a model 9 or 99. He has a broken part. We may want to talk to you to see what the complete part looks like. Where are you located?



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Red

07-16-2004 08:50:58




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 Re: Re: Deer Monseiuer...IHC Corn Planter????? in reply to J. Schwiebert, 07-16-2004 06:40:19  
I am located in Norwich Ontario.Red



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J. Schwiebert

07-16-2004 16:33:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Deer Monseiuer...IHC Corn Planter????? in reply to Red, 07-16-2004 08:50:58  
We would like to talk to you about this planter. We have some questions. We are in Ohio. How can we contact you. We may need some pictures. Also this planter should be red & yellow, not green



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Red

07-17-2004 05:41:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Deer Monseiuer...IHC Corn Planter? in reply to J. Schwiebert, 07-16-2004 16:33:36  
JS from Ohio my email is (ferris_les@hotmail.com)and will try to answer your questions.Red
She is red with galvanized fert. buckets.



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gene b

07-16-2004 03:24:56




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 Re: Deer Monseiuer...IHC Corn Planter????? in reply to Red, 07-15-2004 20:25:11  
The roll of wire was only on the planter for storage when going from field to field as it was unrolled when you startedand held in place with a stake on each end of field. The buttons on the wire tripped the planter to drop a hill of seed as each button passed thru the checkhead of the planter as it was pulled thru the field.



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Farmalldan

07-16-2004 10:03:44




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 Re: Re: Deer Monseiuer...IHC Corn Planter????? in reply to gene b, 07-16-2004 03:24:56  
Gene,
I have always been curious about how the hill drop (or check row) planters worked. I realize they used wire with buttons running through some type of trip to time the seed drop. What I don't understand is how the trip wire was moved from one row to the next at the end of each pass. It appears to me that three people were required for planting, one on the planter and one on each turnrow to move the stakes. What am I missing? BTW, although hill drop planting was pretty much gone by the time I was old enough to notice what was going on, we had one neighbor who was stilling using it circa 1955. Daddy had a difficult time explaining to me why the cotton lined up in rows any direction you looked in his fields. Thanks.

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J. Schwiebert

07-16-2004 16:31:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Deer Monseiuer...IHC Corn Planter????? in reply to Farmalldan, 07-16-2004 10:03:44  
The first thing I remember doing is set the stake and then driving to the other end letting the wire unroll as you drive. Then you set the other stake, turned the planter around and then you lined up the planter attached the wire in the trip arm and planted to the other end. Then you unhooked the wire from the planter, moved the wire over, insert the wire in the other trip arm and planted back. It only takes one guy but if you plant with horses or even if you plant with the tractor you get off the tractor you get off and on a lot. 2-4D I think was the key item that ended check row corn. What my friend and I do not remember is how you rolled the wire back up. Although this Deere & Mansuer my friend has is equipped with a sprocket that would power the drum the check wire goes on. We had a 13 acre field and it took the better part of the day to plant that. Since we are on this topic, When were fertilizer attachments introduced. My dad said the first planter he had was the second planter in the township with a fertilizer attachment, so about when did they become available?

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Guy Fay

07-15-2004 20:29:56




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 Re: Deer Monseiuer...IHC Corn Planter????? in reply to Red, 07-15-2004 20:25:11  
It's Deere-Manseur (Think John Deere and you're essentially right). And yes, most of the corn planters before the 1940s or so were check-row planters, that lined up the hills so that cultivating could happen up and down, side-to-side, and even diagonally.



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Red

07-15-2004 21:29:58




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 Re: Re: Deer Monseiuer...IHC Corn Planter????? in reply to Guy Fay, 07-15-2004 20:29:56  
What would be the value of one in half decent shape? I have line on one.Thanks Red



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