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IH 454 Clutch replacement

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Ken Carpenter

06-06-2004 09:40:43




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IH 454 Gas. I only have clutch response
in the last 1" to 2" before the pedal hits the foot plate. Possibly throwout bearing, but will
probably replace the clutch and pressure plate
while I'm in there. It makes a grinding noise when fully depressed. The clutch
doesn't slip however, and the tractor runs/pulls
great when running under load. The problem is only when
engaging clutch to stop, shift gears, or reverse.

What kind of job will I be getting into ?
I see several mentions of doing a "split", which
I assume is spliting the transmission from engine.
Never attempted something this complex on a tractor. Any words of wisdom are welcome !!!

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JB

06-06-2004 17:35:25




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 Re: IH 454 Clutch replacement in reply to Ken Carpenter, 06-06-2004 09:40:43  
Hi, my brother and I have replaced the clutch in his 454D twice over the 30 years he has had it.

If the clutch is not slipping, I would try adjusting it first. The adjustment is done by lengthing the rod by the clutch pedal. Should have about 3/4 to 1" free play. Make sure your clutch return spring is not broken. This spring pulls the clutch pedal to it its resting place so that the release bearing does not touch the pressure plate fingers.

There is an ispection plate in the bottom of the bell housing that allows visual inspection of the release bearing and pressure plate.

It is not a difficult job to replace clutch pressure plate and bearings. About 4 to 5 hrs.
for the inexperienced. An IH mechanic probably can do it in 2 to 3 hrs if there is no loader frame to remove.

I don't recommend doing the job yourself unless you have experience at this type of work and access to the proper tools. When you split the tractor in two, you are dealing with two very heavy pieces of machinery supported by hydraulic jacks.

BE CAREFUL

JB

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Ken C.

06-08-2004 05:15:49




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 Re: Re: IH 454 Clutch replacement in reply to JB, 06-06-2004 17:35:25  
Thanks JB, and others..
Yes, the clutch pedal adjustments, and spring
are fine and haven't changed. We took off the
inspection plate and found the problem.
You can see where the fingers on the pressure plate are "ground down".. this causes the release
bearing to have to travel another 1/4" to 1/2"
to even make contact with the fingers, thus release
from the clutch plate.

My dad is experienced in doing these types of
"operations", and he's confident we can fix it.
We have enough heavy-duty jacks, safety jacks,
etc to make an attempt, so wish us luck !!
Thanks again.. Ken in TN.

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Ken C.

06-09-2004 06:26:45




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 Re: Re: Re: IH 454 Clutch replacement in reply to Ken C., 06-08-2004 05:15:49  
Thanks JB, for the tip on supporting the front
end of the tractor during the split. With the
front-end weights, the center of gravity is very
close to the front-axle, and not at the jack
point.

Got the split done fairly easy.. Spent the most
time getting the temp.sensor removed. It didn't
work anyway, so I've ordered a new guage/assmbly.
The pressure plate fingers were shot, as was the
throwout bearing. Rattles worse than a pair of
those old ball-bearing skates we had as kids !!
New parts on the way (Bates Corp), and I should be back in
bidness. Cost of PP, clutch disk, TO and pilot
bearings was right at $300.. with a credit for
the core return of the PP and clutch disk of $60.
Happy tractor-ing !!!

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j meyer

06-06-2004 12:13:58




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 Re: IH 454 Clutch replacement in reply to Ken Carpenter, 06-06-2004 09:40:43  
Ken- if it comes down to a clutch split, i would recommend that you take it to an implement if your unsure on what your doing. Doing clutch jobs is something I take forgranted, but to the novice mechanic, can be a real headache. Just my two cents....



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Allan in NE

06-06-2004 10:19:45




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 Re: IH 454 Clutch replacement in reply to Ken Carpenter, 06-06-2004 09:40:43  
Ken,

Why don't you try to adjusting that clutch first; might save you a bunch of work.

Thinkin' out loud,

Allan



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lester hillmann

10-24-2004 07:02:25




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 Re: Re: IH 454 Clutch replacement in reply to Allan in NE, 06-06-2004 10:19:45  
how do you adjust the clutch



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