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Slack in Steering Gear - Super A

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Pat Rivers-Bowe

05-28-2004 07:12:21




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1952 Farmall Super A [it's Wide Front End]

I have about one-quarter turn play in the steering wheel, chasing the front wheels. Shaking the steering wheel shaft, there is sideways play plus rain busily runs down into the steering gear unit and dilutes the oil.

I see there are 2 pre-sized bushings - one for the worm shaft and the other for the [vertical] sector shaft. a. Are these bushings still available? b. Would changing the bushings [plus accompanying seals for the rain] fix the slack steering problem?

Manual says Steering Gear Unit can be overhauled without having to prop up engine and remove entire front end.

Otherwise, it is that major operation and carry the Unit down to my Friendly Local Machine Shop.

The "Search" function is down for maintenance, so I may be repeating an existing Discussion Post.

Thanks in advance, for your help.
Pat from New Brunswick

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KeithF

05-29-2004 07:51:59




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 Re: Slack in Steering Gear - Super A in reply to Pat Rivers-Bowerman, 05-28-2004 07:12:21  
Something else that needs to be checked closely is the steering linkages. There are hardened inserts inside ends that fit the ball ends of the steering arms. Many times these are broken or worn out. They can cause a lot of looseness. Dissassmble the arms and check their condition.



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Shaggy

05-28-2004 09:28:09




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 Re: Slack in Steering Gear - Super A in reply to Pat Rivers-Bowerman, 05-28-2004 07:12:21  
I just got my Super A front back together. I put a new bearing and seal in it and I got them from Carqest for about $25. As far as the bushing goes it didn't seem to bad. But the bearing in mine was moving up and down in the cast housing so I made a thin shim and that took care of it.



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Don Swindall

05-28-2004 08:49:09




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 Re: Slack in Steering Gear - Super A in reply to Pat Rivers-Bowerman, 05-28-2004 07:12:21  
I am in the process of rebuilding 2 tractor steering units. A 100 & 130. I have the 130 ready to go back together. I will let you know if it fixes the problem if you want me to. The pre sized bushings are available. The large one cost me $36.00 the small one was $10.00 and the c-clip was (hold on) $6.00. I bought the seal, the bearings, the woodriff keys at a bearing supply house. They cost me $86.00. The bushing could only be ordered through a Farmall dealer. You cannot totally rebuild it with out pulling the complete front end off, you must get to the bushing and that is the only way. I had to cut mine out with a chesil. The total cost for each tractor ran be about 85.00 each. Which is not bad considering how long the rebuild will last.
I was told by the person I got the bushings from, that there is a c-clip on the short shaft and if it is missing it will cause a half round of slack. It is not as bad as it sounds. Good Luck. Don

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Pat Rivers-Bowerman

05-28-2004 20:23:01




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 Re: Re: Slack in Steering Gear - Super A in reply to Don Swindall, 05-28-2004 08:49:09  
Thanks to Shaggy and Don for your Come-Backs.

Yes, Don, I would sure appreciate hearing how your rebuild made out. I had missed that C-clip in the diagram - will get all the bits and check it out.

In 1976, I was home from sea and helped my Dad rebuild the Super A. Although he was also a skilled machinist, he hung off doing the steering gear, probably didn't want to have her laid up again.

I have inherited the Super A - its is a family heirloom, and I need a machine for out in the country here..... My brother has great mechanical skills so he got the 1933 Lagonda 16/80 2-litre 6-cylinder roadster with Van De Plas body - suitable for Vancouver where he lives [it's a car ! ].

Anyhow, I have been haunting the Posts and the Archives for much usual information from all who have so freely contributed; so I will soon be able to have the Super A out chugging again.

Regards,
Pat in New Brunswick

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Don Swindall

06-01-2004 12:55:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Slack in Steering Gear - Super A in reply to Pat Rivers-Bowerman, 05-28-2004 20:23:01  
I put the 130 back together this weekend and it is great. It has less than an 1/8 of a turn of slack.
I also did the 100 Sunday and it has a little more slack the the 130 but it has been rode hard and put up wet, if you know what I mean. My dad farmed with the 100 full time and only did enough to keep it going. I helped him out,(with no choice) plowing when I was just a teenager. I am now 59. The hardest parts are getting the shims (sleeves) out and putting the axle back. Good luck. Any problems I will be more than happy to try and help you out.
Don Swindall

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