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450 Governor Is Frustrating Me HELP!!

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Harlen Larson

05-17-2004 19:19:49




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Unless I am idling, my tractor revs up and down all the time. I try to ease the throttle but I can't get it to rev up smoothly. It just speeds up and slows down back and forth most of the time that I am using it. What do I need to do?




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Harlen Larson

05-18-2004 16:42:32




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 Re: 450 Governor Is Frustrating Me HELP!! in reply to Harlen Larson, 05-17-2004 19:19:49  
I pulled the covers off the governor today. All the linkage moves freely to the carb and down to the governor. I thought I would see something wrong that really stands out when I opened it up but in my opinion it looks pretty good. The top weight has wear at the pivot pin and i'm not really sure what that one is supposed to do. It just sits on the shaft all the time and nothing lifts it. Is this normal? Not sure what to do next. I am very handy mechanically and can fabricate some weird inventions so I could probably do something with this thing if I knew what to look for but I have never messed with one of these.

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rustyfarmall

05-18-2004 21:42:47




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 Re: Re: 450 Governor Is Frustrating Me HELP!! in reply to Harlen Larson, 05-18-2004 16:42:32  
The shaft that the weights sit on spins when the tractor is running, centrifugal force throws the weights out and a small tab on the weights works against a fitting which is attached to a fulcrum. The fulcrum has the spring hooked to it, and the other end of the spring is hooked to the throttle shaft. Clear as mud? To get a better idea of how this works, it won't hurt to start the engine with the cover off, it will throw some oil out, but it will not be a flood or anything. I do not consider myself an expert on governors, but I have been able to vastly improve the performance on a couple of mine just by tinkering. They are not all that complicated.

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Bob M

05-18-2004 08:16:29




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 Re: 450 Governor Is Frustrating Me HELP!! in reply to Harlen Larson, 05-17-2004 19:19:49  
Rustyfarmall’s response below is probably right. However the problem could be a simple bind in the linkage or carburetor throttle shaft. You might proceed like this:

1 – Remove the cover from the governor riser (the sloped cover with the vent tube running to the head) to get at the bellcrank underneath. Set the throttle handle to idle, then try to move the bellcrank up and down. It should move easily with no hint of sticking. If you find the bellcrank is sticking...

2 – Pull the pin from the bellcrank. Now work the vertical rod up and down, then rotate the horizontal shaft (carb link) to figure out which part is sticking.

3 – If it’s the carb link, loosen the 2 screws from the plates at each end of the tube connecting the governor riser to the carburetor. Wiggle the tube around then try rotating the carb link again. If it now turns now freely, retighten the screws.

4 – If the carb link is still binding, remove the carburetor and look for a bent or sticking carb throttle shaft.

5 – However if you find it’s the vertical governor rod that’s sticking the problem’s inside the governor. Remove the cover and check for a worn out thrust bearing, worn flyweight/rockshaft bushings, the wrong spring installed, etc.

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rustyfarmall

05-18-2004 06:55:41




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 Re: 450 Governor Is Frustrating Me HELP!! in reply to Harlen Larson, 05-17-2004 19:19:49  
The first thing would be to remove the cover and take a look inside, from what you describe, I don't think anything is broken, but I'll bet you find quite a bit of wear. Most of the parts you may need are still available through the dealer, or, if you are handy, you can pretty much rebuild what you have without buying any new parts. I could describe step by step what needs to be done, but if you do a search of the archives I think you will find all the info you need. If you still have questions, just ask.

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