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Jamie Stratton

05-05-2004 16:30:05

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I have a 1942 farmall m. My dads friend has a farmall torque amplifier off of an MTA I suppose and I was wondering if I could put the torque amplifier on my standard M. I was wondering how much work that may involve

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'52 Farmall H

05-06-2004 11:52:34

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Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Jamie Stratton, 05-05-2004 16:30:05

I can't understand this Mr. Stratton! I just posted a similar question a week or so back. I was given an H and it is my first farm tractor. Like you, I don't even have it at my house yet. I asked if I could put a TA on and I got a runaround! Not as big as yours but still ridiculous. I was accused of trying to trick people with a Super HTA! It was not clear to me at first that you needed to put a 300 rear on the H. So I had no idea what was going on! People do not write so that you can understand what they are trying to say. And some of the "old hands" seem to have an attitude toward us dummies. Good luck and have fun with your M!

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Hugh MacKay

05-06-2004 03:02:17

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Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Jamie Stratton, 05-05-2004 16:30:05

Jamie: I kind of wonder if Wardner knew the Canadian built Pontiac that looked like a Chevy to him, had destinctively different models from the US built Pontiacs. They were not Catalinas, Bonnyvilles or by gosh I cant remember the third one. Lets see how many of the Canadian models he can remember. E mail me and I will tell you the answer.

Two Pontiacs, US Pontiac on an Olds chassis and Canadian Pontiac on a Chevy Chassis. It was Pontiac styling and the same styling in both.

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Paul in Mich

05-06-2004 04:49:18

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Re: Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-06-2004 03:02:17

Hugh, I thought the "Parisiene" was a neat looking car, and who could forget the 1950 "Meteor". Mercury front and Ford back. We here in the States had to work awfully hard in our Dad's garages fo make our fords look that good. Actually, I read an article that the "Parisiene" was sort of the culmination of all the prototype designs. Since GM used a common body, many of the other design features were interchangable. The Company could have very well, for example, put a 55 Chevy front grill on the standard body, and put a pontiac rear deck, and called it the 55 Chevy. many designs hit the head designers desk, and many were applied to clay models before final design was agreed upon for a particular model. Some were mixed and matched to bring about what would eventually become a Chevy, Pontiac, Olds, etc. heck, they still do that to a great extent. The only difference being is that the only visable difference in a true Candaian car and an American car is the speedometer. Cars built for Canada default to Kph readings minimized and MPH minimized, and American cars MPG maximized. maximized

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Hugh MacKay

05-06-2004 11:31:37

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Re: Re: Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Paul in Mich, 05-06-2004 04:49:18

Paul: Actually I do remember the models designation on the bottom of the line Pantiacs both sides of the border, they were Star Chief and Stratta Chief, I just cant remember which fits where. Of course the middle of the road Canadian Pontiac was the Laurentian, with Parisiene at the top of the line.

Then there was the MacLaughlin Buick. I'm not up as well on my Ford products but wasn't there some differences cross border between Mercurys and Meteors. Did you people have the Monnarch? And with Crysler we never saw many DeSotos, now there was a boat.

A classmate of mine at college had a Rolls Canardly, he said it would roll down one and can hardly make the next. Actually that was a 1927 Packard, with 3 doors on each side. His best friends claimed he had an auxillary fuel tank mounted on a tandem axle trailer. My memory is rough on this but could that Packard have been 12 cylinder?

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Paul in Mich

05-05-2004 20:51:06

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Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Jamie Stratton, 05-05-2004 16:30:05

Jamie, The best advice I can give you is to take it all in stride. Hopefully you didnt take my lighthearted comment as being rude or as a put down, but merely as creating a mental picture as to the practicality of your question. If this is as rude as it gets, I'd say you're in good shape, since in addition to the great feedback to questions, there is also a fair share of bantering that goes on here among friends. Don't take it as a personal affront.

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riverbend

05-05-2004 20:11:44

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Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Jamie Stratton, 05-05-2004 16:30:05

Breathalizer on the send button must be busted tonight. They are not a bad lot. Kind of cranky sometimes. If your Dad's friend only has the TA, the answer is no.

These guys will be a lot friendlier (maybe even helpful) if you just sound like you know what you are talking about, so a operators manual, a service manual or two, and a parts book will go a long ways. Try an outfit called binder books. They are on the web.

These are great tractors. Useful, easy to work on, reliable, good looking. You will like your M a lot. And this is a good site for searching out information on Farmalls and IH.

One cautionary note. These tractor were built long before anybody ever thought about product liability. Be careful.

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jamie

05-05-2004 18:47:35

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Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Jamie Stratton, 05-05-2004 16:30:05

well they came across quite rude like. They could have just said that it is impractical. I thought these forums were about communicating with other tractor owners and getting help. The one response was alright, but the other one seemed kind of rude. I appreciate the peacemaking though.

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Paul in Mich

05-05-2004 17:13:03

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Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Jamie Stratton, 05-05-2004 16:30:05

Jamie, Install a stereo surround sound system with a 6 CD random access player on your tractor, and you will be better off. Bottom line is what you are considering, is like trying to fit a 1960 Impala rear deck to a 1990 Caprice front end.

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Wardner

05-05-2004 17:25:49

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Re: Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Paul in Mich, 05-05-2004 17:13:03

That reminds me of the wierd Canadian cars that GM used to build in the '50s. They would attach the rear end of a Pontiac to the front end of a Chevolet. I suppose it would have been allright if they called them Chevtiacs.

I used to wonder if the Canadians knew any better or whether they were all drunk.

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Hugh MacKay

05-06-2004 02:43:42

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Re: Re: Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Wardner, 05-05-2004 17:25:49

Wardner: My first three cars were Canadian Pontiacs and yes I did know the difference drunk or sober. Growing up in the Maritime provinces every one of us down there had a cousin, aunt or uncle in New England. My Aunt Lizzy lived in North Attleburough MA (hope that speiing is right) and she loved her Pantiac Catalinas. So adamit was she that my dad went and bought a new one.

I guess the annoying one with me was when GM made Olds and Buick the same car, and further to that used a Chevy chassis in the 88 and Lesabre and a Caddy chassis in the 98 and Park Ave.

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jamie

05-05-2004 18:21:28

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Re: Re: Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Wardner, 05-05-2004 17:25:49

there is no real need to be a smart a**
I've never owned a farmall let alone any tractor ever. I'm very new to this. This supposed JD collector was bs'ing me i suppose.

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wfe or wife??

05-05-2004 19:15:25

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to jamie, 05-05-2004 18:21:28

Jamie

I guess my humor went over your head.

Fact: The Canadian car mfgs built wierd stuff in the '50s. Ask Hugh. I will acknowledge that his point of view will be different from mine.

Fact: You started this thread claiming ownership of a '42 Farmall M. Now you say "I've never owned a Farmall". What's up?

Opinion: Most JD owners/collectors know very little about the IH line. I, in turn, know very little about green tractors.

Advice: Go to the library and leaf through a few books by Guy Fay, Henry Rasmussen, Ralph Baumheckel, Kent Borghoff, Robert N Pripps, Ken Updike, Lee Klancher, and I am sure a few more. Better yet buy a parts book for your M, one that includes the SMTA (IH TC-46).

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jamie stratton

05-05-2004 19:29:25

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifie in reply to wfe or wife??, 05-05-2004 19:15:25

i said that i never owned one before, I just bought one, and the fact is I haven't even picked it up yet. I haven't seen it besides pictures or drove it or anything. I've never even driven a tractor before. I understand the humor. I just take things serious sometimes.

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CNKS

05-05-2004 18:40:06

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to jamie, 05-05-2004 18:21:28

No one is trying to put you down. What they are saying is that it may be possible, but it is darn sure impractical. That is one thing that, to my knowledge, no one has ever done, unless they bolted a whole MTA TA/clutch housing and rear end on the front of an M. It's the same principal of making a Super HTA (IH never made one) out of a 300 and a Super H.

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Hugh MacKay

05-05-2004 17:02:30

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Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Jamie Stratton, 05-05-2004 16:30:05

Jamie: You may as well buy a SMTA as everything from the back of the engine to the drawbar is different.

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Wardner

05-05-2004 16:56:07

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Re: 1942 Farmall M torque amplifier in reply to Jamie Stratton, 05-05-2004 16:30:05

That's like transplanting a pigs head on your dog. It won't fit and it will look ugly.

The TA is part of a much larger assembly. To wit: the back two thirds of a SMTA, 400, etc.

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