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Fred Milner

03-30-2004 05:16:35




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Can any one tell me what years these horse drawn hay rakes were made? Also I need to know what colors they were painted at the factory. Thanks.




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Jim Becker

03-30-2004 20:26:22




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 Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Fred Milner, 03-30-2004 05:16:35  
Three and four bar rakes were both available for several years. Second rear wheel was an option, thus not an indicator of age. I can't tell from the picture if it has enclosed gears or not. Older rakes had exposed gears and could be reversed to act as a tedder. They were great rakes but only fair tedders.

Ochre is sort of yellowish, kind of a pale, dirty color.



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Hugh MacKay

03-30-2004 18:50:55




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 Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Fred Milner, 03-30-2004 05:16:35  
Fred: From what I can see I believe your rake is much newer than some are suggesting. I have a couple of questions. Does it have two caster wheels on back? Does the raking reel have 3 bars or 4? Is there a crank just below the lever for height of reel? Does that crank change the angle of the teeth?

If that is a 4 bar rake they were and excellent machine but not many were ever produced. Most were built in the late 30s and 40s.

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Fred Milner

03-30-2004 19:06:56




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 Re: Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-30-2004 18:50:55  
It has 2 caster wheels at the back. Reel has 3 bars. I don't think it has the crank you are talking about. I didn't see any way to change the angle of the teeth. With this info. when do you think it was built? I did get the colors from the paint committee reports. what color is Ochre? Thanks for the help. Fred.



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Hugh MacKay

03-30-2004 20:00:30




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 Re: Re: Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Fred Milner, 03-30-2004 19:06:56  
Fred: I just had the book 150 Years of IH out and he does not go into a lot of detail on the rake model numbers or precise dates. It is quite clear however that rakes produced prior to 1935 had just one angle iron going over the back of rake reel to one caster wheel. The later models had two angle irons like yours going to two caster wheels. The 4 bar rake that I mentioned is not even listed. I would put your rake at late 1930s vintage. It could be as late as 1950, but most of the rakes I remember after the war were on rubber even with hitch for horses.

My dad bought one of the 4 bar rakes, on full rubber, with the crank for changing teeth angle. His rake also had a steel angle iron tractor hitch from the factory. He bought that in 1942 along with a new W4 and a No. Little Genius 2x14 plow. I later acquired another one of those rakes that the customer bought new in 1950. The interesting part is I continued to use those rakes until I stopped farming. I went through the 7 foot mower on to the 9 foot haybine, from baler with thrower and on to round baler. In all my years I never saw a rake I wanted to trade for. And yes I did have many demonstrations of other products. I used to be the subject of my fair share of humour using these rakes behind my SA and 130, amoungst all the haying technology of the 70s. I used to get remarks like aren't you afraid the 1066 will run over the SA without noticing. But you know one thing, those IH 3 and 4 bar rakes don't thrash the leaves off the hay like some of those modern monsters. And a SA or a 130 was just the greatest way to train 8, 10 and 12 year olds how to do a job responcibly. I remember one kid in particular, dad had him raking hay with 130 by the time he was 8. Dad was fussy about his windrows, so the presure was on the kid, and this job was not a 2-3 hour lark. Dad never baled less than 2500 bales per day and this kid raked all. Today the kid is 45 years old, and a long haul trucker that has seen every Province in Canada, every mainland State in the US and parts of Mexico. He has yet to put more than a minor scratch on a motor vehicle.

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pg

03-30-2004 15:17:04




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 Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Fred Milner, 03-30-2004 05:16:35  
i have one just like it. around 1915-20. somewhere around there. the wheels are yellow. tongue is yellow. the main body and seat are blue. the rake is red. have a color picture of it from the archives. pg



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old

03-30-2004 09:36:02




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 Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Fred Milner, 03-30-2004 05:16:35  
I have one of them but it has rubber tires on it used it up till a gear broke if you need any parts let me know



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Jeff

03-30-2004 09:11:21




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 Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Fred Milner, 03-30-2004 05:16:35  
Follow this link, it will take you to the actual IH paint comittee decision for side rakes.



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Jeff

03-30-2004 09:12:17




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 Re: Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Jeff, 03-30-2004 09:11:21  
Link

try it again.



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Fred Milner

03-30-2004 19:08:54




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 Re: Re: Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Jeff, 03-30-2004 09:12:17  
Thanks Jeff that is what I needed.



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Dave H (MI)

03-30-2004 08:52:40




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 Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Fred Milner, 03-30-2004 05:16:35  
I can't tell what model that is from the one picture, but if it is IH or related I find references to very similar rakes starting in 1907 and maufactured up until 1958 (believe it or not).



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Wayne M Kittler

03-30-2004 07:38:54




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 Re: IH hay rake. in reply to Fred Milner, 03-30-2004 05:16:35  
My grandfather has one up the hill. I believe it was all red.



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