Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Farmall & IHC Tractors Discussion Forum
:

Farmall H LP

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Nebraska Cowman

03-24-2004 17:51:19




Report to Moderator

I know they didn't build any from the factory but there are some conversions out there. Any idea how many? Have you ever seen one? I am asking because I have the parts to build one and am wondering if this would be a worthy project?




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Nebraska Cowman

03-25-2004 04:37:05




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall H LP in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-24-2004 17:51:19  
thanks for the positive feedback, I've got to do head-work on the tractor anyway so will move in that direction. maybe I can have the head shaved a little.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Hayshaker5

03-25-2004 03:08:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall H LP in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-24-2004 17:51:19  
Sounds Like an interesting project. Between my dad, uncle and myself, we had a 350U, SM, 400, 560, 706, and 806 all LP. The SM, 706 and 806 were factory LP. The SM and 400 put out about 60-65 hp as compared to the 450 diesel that was at 58 hp. My uncle custom dried corn for a local elevator with the 560. They ran the 560 directly off the supply tank. I now own that same 560 but when my uncle traded it the next owner (who lived in my neighborhood) wanted it converted back to gasoline. That owner traded it in after about 5 years, then the neighbor acoss the road bought it. After he retired, I bought it.
I can remember when dad converted the 400 to LP in 1963 or 1964 the price of LP in Iowa was 9 cents and had went up to 11 cents shortly after. Gasoline was probably approximately 25 to 30 cents off the truck. Good luck if you decide to do it.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
RusselAZ

03-24-2004 22:25:52




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall H LP in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-24-2004 17:51:19  
I had an "H" on propane in the mid 70's in western Nebraska. I still have the carb adapter. do you have a tank made for an "H"?

I did it at the time because I worked for a propane company. Kinda an advertising effort. I don't know what year the tractor was but it had been converted from steel so I don't know what engine it had but think the gas tank only had one compartment so it should have been gasoline engine. It, and Dad's M, were very easy to start in the cold on vapor LP, in fact I ran it on vapor all the time but I didn't use it to much. As to power, it had no problem pulling a IHC 3-14 pull type plow in 2nd gear. Wouldn't quite handle it in third like the "M" would.

If you want to do the conversion really right I'd put a super kit in it. My Dad's "M" was converted that way and had good power. I still have his tank also. When I sold my H and he traded his M the other party wanted them back on gasoline. seeems to be the way it goes.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
John A

03-24-2004 20:41:05




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall H LP in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-24-2004 17:51:19  
Cowman, There was one on YT ads a month ago. Check and see if that fellow still has it. Pretty straight too, I think it was in ARK.
I have only seen one here in Central Texas. If a distillate model was used and higher compression pistons were'nt put in it would be one sick tractor.
Go for it! It would be different.
Later,
John A.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Harry

03-24-2004 19:09:07




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall H LP in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-24-2004 17:51:19  
You may notice a loss in power after converting it to LP. My 656 is a factory LP and I have been told that it has different pistons than a regular gas 656. I think it effects compression and thus resultant power.

I asked a year or more ago about converting it to Gasoline and a number of members here recommended against it. First was the fact that a factory LP was fairly rare, and second was the changes to the valves and pistons needed.

So I purchased a 250 gal LP tank and a wet line. Almost 5000 hours on her and the inside of the motor looks as clean as the day she left the factory. Shame the rest of the tractor does not look the same :(

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
CNKS

03-24-2004 18:34:08




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall H LP in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-24-2004 17:51:19  
If it makes you happy do it. I have 5 gasoline Farmalls, and would have bought an LP 460 from the local dealer, if I would have known he only wanted $1500 for it; when I asked the price it was gone, only on the lot about 2 weeks. The downside for me would be the inconvience when I needed fuel, my property has natural gas. I don't think there were many H conversions, most seemed to be M's. People from the south and southeast may disagree. If you are doing it to sell it for more money, you will have to find the right buyer because it is just another H, other than the LP.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Wardner

03-24-2004 20:46:17




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Farmall H LP in reply to CNKS, 03-24-2004 18:34:08  
CNKS

Why did you offer the information that you have natural gas? How does that affect "inconvience when I needed fuel" situation. Propane and natural gas have different vapor pressures, boiling points, and BTUs. They are not interchangeable although gaseous propane can be diluted with air to create a "fake" natural gas.

I am not trying to pick a fight. Just curious about the relavence of natural gas to propane fueled tractors.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
CNKS

03-25-2004 19:38:06




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Farmall H LP in reply to Wardner, 03-24-2004 20:46:17  
Many rural people in this area have propane (although we sit on the largest natural gas field in the US). A neighbor of mine has an LP M, far as I know he fills it from his house supply (legally, I don't know). My point was that I have 5 gasoline tractors, having one LP tractor would mean having a supply of propane. I could probably just purchase a small container and have it refilled and use that. Still inconvenient, though. I in no way implied that the tractor could be made to run on natural gas. As I said, if I had known the 460 was that cheap, I would have bought it and figured out how to fuel it later -- you must be in a bad mood, I usually like your answers, glad you are back after your irritation at some kid, a couple of years ago!

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
DieselDan

03-25-2004 09:18:34




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Farmall H LP in reply to Wardner, 03-24-2004 20:46:17  
Wardner, I'm really confused by your question! You answered your own question when you wondered why the inconvenience of LP tractors when he has natural gas. If I have a lake full of gasoline and one tractor that runs on diesel, it might be an inconvenience to have to drive for diesel when I'm drowning in gas. It seems to me that you "WERE" in fact picking a fight, and honestly, you sound like a LP SALESMAN!
Maybe it's time to get a job, or a life!!
DD

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Wardner

03-25-2004 10:56:49




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall H LP in reply to DieselDan, 03-25-2004 09:18:34  
Diesel Dan

No, I wasn't trying to pick a fight with CNKS but I will pick a fight with you if you'd like.

The paragraph was phrased in a matter that led me to believe CNKS might want to use NG in a propane tractor. NG can't be run in a small vehicle like a farm tractor without using LNG or CNG. CNG would be easier but the vehicle would need refueling every hour and different fuel tank(s). City buses across the country are being fitted for CNG. It is within the realm of possibility.

I am retired.

You must be retarded.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Nebraska Cowman

03-25-2004 04:27:30




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Farmall H LP in reply to Wardner, 03-24-2004 20:46:17  
I think what CNKS meant was he did not already have a propane storage tank in his yard.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy