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80-90w in the distributor?

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Digger

03-21-2004 12:08:39




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What type of lubrication in the distributor gears 80-90w gear oil or some special grease?




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rebuilder

03-21-2004 18:34:16




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 Re: 80-90w in the distributor? in reply to Digger, 03-21-2004 12:08:39  
Digger;

As Mr. MacKay indicated, I use a white lithium grease in the distributor change-over kits I put together(to replace magnetos). The lithium has more "stickiness" and unless you work the tar out of your tractors I doubt you need to even grease the distributor as often as the book says. Generally on the distributors I rebuild there are two conditions; Those which have been liburicated(at least in some way)and show very little wear, and the distributors which have been left without grease and are basically rusted and worn due to rust. Essentially I guess I am saying you could use just about any type of lube, just as long as you KEEP it lubed(keeping in mind a little-dab'll-do-ya, just coat the gear)! My opinion is the white grease would extend the amount of time between applications.

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Hugh MacKay

03-22-2004 02:40:57




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 Re: Re: 80-90w in the distributor? in reply to rebuilder, 03-21-2004 18:34:16  
rebuilder: The IH techician that got me started on the white grease was suggesting this grease was much better in cold weather for those tiny gears.
He said he had seen evidence of some damage created by heavier greases, especially is cases where tractors were used only ocasionally in cold weather and condensation was a factor. I personally have never bothered with zerks. I buy the white grease in squeeze tubes, just remove the plug and apply with the tube. I only do it once per year also.

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rebuilder

03-22-2004 03:41:05




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 Re: Re: Re: 80-90w in the distributor? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-22-2004 02:40:57  
Hugh;

Huh; I never considered that. I use white grease for exactly the opposite reason since the engine heat will cause regular grease to fling off. I guess the weather here in the upper midwest may not be as cold to cause the problem you tech mentioned. A pretty cold winter for us is avg. temperatures in the teens. It rarely gets below zero for extended periods. I personally have never had nor heard of problems in ignition due to cold grease but I consider myself somewhat uneducated meaning the older I get, the less I seem to know.

I also use the tubes of white grease. Along with lubriplate, I use both on just about every item I rebuild from carbs./ starters to the magnum dual speed PTO's/hyd remotes. Wonderful stuff. My greatest concern is condensation/rust from setting on the shelf sometimes for extended periods of time and so I use copious quantities.

On the topic of zerks, most of the distributors I receive which have the zerks installed are loaded with grease. So much so the it is forced into the cam and weight timing advance chamber. Although this is partially due to a dried out and flattened o-ring in the distributor, most are from gung-ho grease guns.Incidentally, as a rebuilder, this is a nice problem to have with easier take apart and no rust as well as the parts are preserved(*less to replace) I would suggest though, Hugh, that if you see a small amounnt of grease in you point area to replace that o-ring. I get the sense though you are ahead of the game in that area.

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Andy Martin

03-21-2004 18:42:37




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 Re: Re: 80-90w in the distributor? in reply to rebuilder, 03-21-2004 18:34:16  
With what everybody else said, it is best to have a zerk screwed into a coupling on a 3" piece of 1/8" pipe. Unscrew the distributer plug, screw in the pipe, and give it two shots.

Then take the pipe back out and put the plugback in. It is so much trouble you will probably not overdo it.

I work my M's pretty good and grease the distributors spring and fall most years.

Don't forget to grease your clutch pilot bearing!

Andy

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Hugh MacKay

03-21-2004 13:09:58




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 Re: 80-90w in the distributor? in reply to Digger, 03-21-2004 12:08:39  
Digger: The reason those don't have grease zerks, is too much grease. You can install zerks, just inform all your grease gun happy cowboys every 6 months or 500 hours. There is a small port on back oposite grease port indicates when full. I was advised some 30 odd years ago to use white automotive grease. You should have an operators manual, as it tells daily, weekly, half yearly and yearly lubrications.

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riverbend

03-21-2004 12:36:06




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 Re: 80-90w in the distributor? in reply to Digger, 03-21-2004 12:08:39  
What tractor are you working on ? I used a zerk and a grease gun to lube the H and the C. It seems to be working fine.



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