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Hauling Questions about Farmall Super A

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Mark (PA)

03-15-2004 17:26:52




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Hello You might remember my questions from last week about a super A. Well I have found a few and now I am trying to figure out how to get one home!

A friend of mine has a 6 x 8 tandem axle trailer for sale. A homeade job but seems structurally ok. No brakes though. 4' tailgate.

Can anyone tell me the dimensions of a Super A and if it will fit on that trailer? And also how much one might weight? I believe it has wheel weights.

Should I get brakes if I get the trailer or would it be ok without brakes?

I appreciate any help and suggestions.

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BOB

03-16-2004 18:48:32




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 Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super A in reply to Mark (PA), 03-15-2004 17:26:52  
Mark wheres about you at in PA



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Mark PA

03-17-2004 16:39:36




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 Re: Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super A in reply to BOB, 03-16-2004 18:48:32  
Bob I live outside of Johnstown PA.

You?



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BOB

03-17-2004 19:59:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super in reply to Mark PA, 03-17-2004 16:39:36  
HARRISBURG way to far for me to help,but i tried



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FC

03-16-2004 07:57:57




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 Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super A in reply to Mark (PA), 03-15-2004 17:26:52  
I can relate to the safety implications of not having the load properly balanced. I have pulled trailers a lot of miles behind my pickup, yet a few weeks ago I rented a bobcat (skid loader) from a local rental place to do some dirt work. They have their own trailer specifically built to haul the rig. The trailer is home-made, and exactly the correct length to haul it and no room to shift the load. I had a bad feeling when I started to leave and my back pickup tires were spinning in gravel just getting it started underway. This told me the load was off balance to the rear by a fair amount, but there was not much I could do without adding weight to the pickup bed. I made the 35 or so mile trip and back, but at any speed above 50 mph the trailer would begin to fish-tail nearly out of control, and any grade off pavement required that I use 4 wheel Drive to move it due to the lack of weight on my rear wheels. I am amazed someone has not lost control of that loader and trailer especially considering most who rent it are probably inexperienced at towing. I knew better, yet nearly lost it myself.

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Hugh MacKay

03-16-2004 15:56:55




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 Re: Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super A in reply to FC, 03-16-2004 07:57:57  
FC: Not a very comfortable feeling is it, and those skidsteers are heavy little monsters. Nothing much more miserable in the driving world than an unbalanced truck. Kind of like driving a bicycle the first time.



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Haas

03-15-2004 18:28:23




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 Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super A in reply to Mark (PA), 03-15-2004 17:26:52  
A 6x8 trailer is a bit short for a Super A. I'd think you need at least 10 ft, and 12 ft would be better so you can position the tractor to get the weight distributed like you need it. The Super A can weigh up to 3500 lbs depending on how equipped, if tires have solution in them, wheel weights, etc. Highly recommend a trailer with brakes, although you may get by for short trips without. It's mighty uncomfortable to have a trailer pushing you!!

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Hugh MacKay

03-16-2004 03:54:13




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 Re: Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super A in reply to Haas, 03-15-2004 18:28:23  
Haas: You make a good point on having enough length to balance your weight at the right point on trailer. This mistake gets a lot more amatures in trouble then no brakes on trailer. The guy with no brakes on trailer is usually carful and a very defencive driver.

I was approaching a sawmill one day with tractor trailer grossing about 140,000 lbs. At about half mile away I could see a Ford Bronco leaving mill with a 4x8 trailer and 12' lumber stacked 2.5' deep with all excess length of lumber over the tail end of trailer. He accelerated quite quickly coming towards me, I decided to slow right down as I could see disaster coming. Low and behold the Bronco and trailer started fish tailing. He did about 450 degrees right in front of me and got stopped blocking the whole roadway. Damage, flat tires on trailer and both rear corners of the Bronco stoved in. I guess that was better then what would have happened, had I not anticipated coming events and slowed down to a speed that I was able to stop about 25' from him.

This can also happen with the big highway rigs. I was at a safety meeting once. They showed slides of a Super B train (two trailers behind one tractor for those who don't know the term) It filped in the middle of a traffic circle at 30 mph. The load was lumber, our chalange was to identify why this happened. Straps had held load in place. Problem was exactly same as the Bronco I had seen a few weeks earlier, just more truck and more weight involved.

My point is hauling weight is a professional job, clearly not for the guy who need ask if a Super A will fit on a 7 or 8 foot trailer.

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Hugh MacKay

03-16-2004 05:39:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-16-2004 03:54:13  
Mark: I am not trying to be mean, just wanting to emphasize a point on highway safety. I have hauled some quite heavy loads in my day even heavy loads on pickups given their size. What a lot of people don't realize is that having that load balanced very very important no matter how large or small the equipment. I am on the road a lot and everyday see vehicles large and small, loaded in such a way they are little more than an accident looking for a place to happen. These vehicles can have passed all measures of safety inspection, yet if not loaded correctly they are a hazzard.

My apologies if I seemed a bit harsh, but this message is one that never seems to sink in on a lot of people. The story I told about the highway trailer in our safety meeting, even the highway safety personell present at that meeting, discussing why that trailer flipped taking the other trailer and tractor with it were at a loss as to why this happened. It was truckers with a few miles under their belts that had the answers. Every trucker out there at one time or another has pulled an off balance load. It will make you wish the day would end. Most experienced truckers never have this happen more than a couple of times. You soon learn to size up a load and correct if necessary before hitting the road. Tractors and equipment are the easy ones, you just pull over start the machine and move it on the trailer.

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Mark

03-16-2004 04:44:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-16-2004 03:54:13  
I was just asking. No need to get mean about it.



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Hugh MacKay

03-16-2004 05:43:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Su in reply to Mark, 03-16-2004 04:44:58  
Mark: I did respond to you, just got it in the wrong place.



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Mark

03-16-2004 06:22:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hauling Questions about Farmal in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-16-2004 05:43:20  
Its ok ANd I appreciate you answering honestly. I will post in the hauling section to see if I can get a price from someone who can haul it for me.

Thanks for your help.



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w gatewood

03-15-2004 17:35:00




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 Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super A in reply to Mark (PA), 03-15-2004 17:26:52  
dot will flat nail you without brakes. have it halued or rent a proper trailer.the adverage shipping weight is 2400 lbs



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tractorhead IN.

03-16-2004 05:34:21




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 Re: Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super A in reply to w gatewood, 03-15-2004 17:35:00  
When I first started hauling tractors a few years ago, I decided I would get the best safest trailer available; and I did. 18 foot, tandum, electric brakes,all was well,but now every time I want to haul I find I have no brakes,mice get into brake drums and eat the insulation off the wires,I just don't know how to prevent this. Does anyone have any ideas.Thanks..... jimmy



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Boyd

03-18-2004 11:49:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Hauling Questions about Farmall Super in reply to tractorhead IN., 03-16-2004 05:34:21  
TractorheadIN: Take some moth balls OR a sheet of the dryer sheets that are used in a clothes dryer. That should keep the mice away.



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