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Barry

03-11-2004 08:38:39




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My recently aquired H had a busted manifold,so I replaced it with a new one this morning.I had not heard it run until then.It is backfiring through the exaust on the number one cylinder.I pull that wie off and it stops but is only running on three cylinders.I have checked thetiming and its ine,replced the plugs and wires wires as well.Points are set at .019.Im thinking a burnt valve as the valvesthemselves move What is asure fire way to check other than pullin the head?

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Barry w/ results

03-11-2004 16:00:24




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 Re: H problem in reply to Barry, 03-11-2004 08:38:39  
Firing order is right,I set the valves to 18 cold,maybe I need to go closer?,with my metal ruler,all the pushrods are straight and when they are in the down position,all are near the same hiegth,used a straight edge level,I verified the timing.Am borrowing a compression tester tomorrow to se what happens.



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Bob

03-11-2004 10:12:41




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 Re: H problem in reply to Barry, 03-11-2004 08:38:39  
The problem could likely be a burned valve, but it would be a good idea to remove the valve cover, and check for proper movement of the valves on #1 cylinder. Do they seem to move the same amount as the other cylinders?

Possibilites other than a burned or sticky valve are: valve set too tight, bent or damaged push rod, push rod out of place, broken rocker arm, bad cam lobe, blown head gasket, and probably a few more. Also, check for a carbon-tracked or cracked mag or distributor cap.

If you narrow it down to a likely burned valve, you can verify this buy buying an adapter to screw into the spark plug hole that hooks to an air hose. You rotate the engine to a possition where both valves are closed, and apply air pressure. It will leak out the offending valve into the intake or exhaust manifold.

If you do not want to buy the air-to-sparkplug hole adapter, you can make your own by breaking the porcelain out of an old spark plug, and welding or brazing in a pipe fitting that will connect to your air hose.

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Carp

03-11-2004 09:09:13




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 Re: H problem in reply to Barry, 03-11-2004 08:38:39  
Checking the compression is the correct thing to do.

Here is a couple of simple things that I would do though if I didn't have access to a compress tester. You can roll the engine over with the coil unhooked and see if the engine sounds like it is rolling over unevenly. That is a sign that one cylinder does have compression.

You can also roll it over using the crank and hear it blowing back through the exhaust if a valve is leaking.

The third thing that you can do is pull the rocker arm cover and see if all the valves are returning. You could have a valve that is sticking and not closing all the way. Got lucky with one tractor by using some penetrating oil and lightly taping the top of the valve with a hammer until it came loose.

Not the most scientific approaches, but they have worked for me in the past.

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Check the compression

03-11-2004 08:41:17




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 Re: H problem in reply to Barry, 03-11-2004 08:38:39  
You should get 90PSi per cylinder and I would think that a burnt or leaking valve would show a low comprression



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Dan Kelley

03-11-2004 10:00:58




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 Re: Re: H problem in reply to Check the compression , 03-11-2004 08:41:17  
Have you verified the firing order?



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