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Super C Clutch Replacement

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Brian Schmidt

03-09-2004 18:48:59




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I am getting ready to split a Super C to replace the clutch. Can you guys give me the scoop on the throw out bearing? I understand there are a couple different types (carbon? and roller?) and there are differences that make them not interchangeable. Also, any other insight to make this change out more successful and easier would be greatly appreciated. I am purchasing a new clutch kit from my IH dealer.

Thanks in advance!!
Brian Schmidt

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gene b

03-10-2004 20:48:34




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 Re: Super C Clutch Replacement in reply to Brian Schmidt, 03-09-2004 18:48:59  
Never seen anything but bearings used on As, Bs, and Cs. You better put the new stuff on one pile and then the used ones beside them and check the height. Some of these rebuilt stuffs are different when it comes to the thickness of the clutch disc and the same with the pressure plate. There should be some pre-load as you stated. Something is not correct if the pressure plate bolted right up without pre-load. You never know what you will run into when working on a 50yr old machine. The last owner mite have did something stupid and got things all mixed up.

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gauger

03-10-2004 06:05:17




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 Re: Super C Clutch Replacement in reply to Brian Schmidt, 03-09-2004 18:48:59  
Brian, the older style has a graphite ring that is not serviceable separately. You have to replace the whole thing. The newer bearing type has a different cast iron carrier. When I restored a Super A recently I wanted to go with the bearing type so I went to a tractor boneyard and bought the carrier. The functional difference is that the bearing turns with the clutch, the graphite ring is stationary and the clutch fingers slide on it as the clutch rotates. Either will outlast you and me.

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Brian Schmidt

03-10-2004 20:05:11




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 Re: Re: Super C Clutch Replacement in reply to gauger, 03-10-2004 06:05:17  
Gauger, Thanks!! Your post is the exact information I was looking for.

I understand there is some kind of adjustment to do on the forks once this is installed. There are three bolts and lock nuts that you can adjust the fingers. In the IT service book I have, it talks about adjusting these fingers. What is that all about? Never heard of that before.

Also, I bolted up the new pressure plate to the flywheel tonight. Seems kind of strange. The pressure plate mates up directly to the flywheel surface without any preload on the bolts. Does this make sense. Any clutch I have ever replaced in cars, had about 1/2" of gap when you lay it up. This doesn't seem right to me.

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Brian

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gene b

03-09-2004 19:32:50




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 Re: Super C Clutch Replacement in reply to Brian Schmidt, 03-09-2004 18:48:59  
Best way to go is take all the used parts from your tractor along that way you will have the rite stuff. Kits are avail for 125 exchange.



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Brian Schmidt

03-09-2004 19:37:50




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 Re: Re: Super C Clutch Replacement in reply to gene b, 03-09-2004 19:32:50  
I hear what you guys are saying, but I am looking for the difference between the different styles and the advantages/disadvantages and retrofitability (is that a word?) of each.

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Brian



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CNKS

03-09-2004 19:53:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Super C Clutch Replacement in reply to Brian Schmidt, 03-09-2004 19:37:50  
Bearings last for years, in the case of an occasional use Super C, probably decades -- doesn't make any difference.



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CNKS

03-09-2004 19:06:54




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 Re: Super C Clutch Replacement in reply to Brian Schmidt, 03-09-2004 18:48:59  
Order according to the number that is on the old bearing, or take it to a bearing place and see if they can cross reference it.



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