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German export F-30

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Walt in Jaxn Tn

03-05-2004 11:41:54




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Where are the F-30 experts? Can anyone tell me about the German export F-30. I had one and could never get much info about them or what they were built for. I talked to a man in Missouri who said there were a total of seven known to exist at that time in the Americas (south America, north america and Canada)I posted a photo in help identify. -- Walt




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Buddy Woodson

03-07-2004 06:15:37




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 Re: German export F-30 in reply to Walt in Jaxn Tn., 03-05-2004 11:41:54  
Walt, I remember talking to you years ago about your F30. I have two F30's with S/N's 30097 and 30157 both of which are sugar cane tractors. I would say that your tractor was bulit for a high clearance purpose, just a tricycle front. The only difference should have been the front pedestal. 40" rear wheels were put on the last Sugar F30's when they added the factory overdrive.The 44" rear wheels with overdrive was simply too fast/dangerous for the highway.I would be interesting to closely examine the front pedestal for numbers and design. High Clearance cotton tractors generally had a single front wheel
so maybe this was an early attempt to develop a cotton tractor. Did you find it where tall delta cotton could have been grown? The most interesting part of collecting is the unknown and chasing parts!! Come see us in Lebanon Tennessee in July of 2005 when we will be featuring IH Highclearnce tractors at the 2005 National Red Power Roundup. We hope to display the largest number or IH high clearance tractors ever assembled. SPREAD THE WORD!!

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Guy Fay

03-05-2004 12:22:19




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 Re: German export F-30 in reply to Walt in Jaxn Tn., 03-05-2004 11:41:54  
Are you talking about F-30s exported to Germany? They didn't build them over there. There may have been F-30s built with German language decals.



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Walt in Jaxn Tn.

03-05-2004 17:57:54




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 Re: Re: German export F-30 in reply to Guy Fay, 03-05-2004 12:22:19  
The story I was told was these tractors parts were built in Germany or built here and assembled there. Anyway the U.S. office told the german office to pack up and move everything out of the country as Adolf Hitler was showing his back side, then later when the tractor parts were here the tractor was built from spare parts after the assembly line was shut down for F-30 and the M took over. The tractor has a post production serial number. I also know that the engine serial number does not match the frame/tool box number. so it may not have the origional engine either, the engine number is higher than the tractor number so it too was built after the f-30 assembly line was shut down. I'd like to post some pictures here, but do not know how. There is one photo over in "help identify" in the galleries. Mr. Fay I've checked every book about the F series tractors I can find but, have never seen any archive photos or information about this tractor. The only part of this tractor that didn't come out of the International factory is the Monroe ride seat, and I've heard talk that even the monroe seat could have come thru the factory as an ad on. The wing nut on the radiator cap is over 6 ft. off the ground.

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Guy Fay

03-06-2004 05:59:34




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 Re: Re: Re: German export F-30 in reply to Walt in Jaxn Tn., 03-05-2004 17:57:54  
There's some real obvious problems with that story-Neuss Works didn't produce F-30s, but did produce F-12s. Neuss stayed in production throughout WWII, didn't shut down at all. Hitler wouldn't have allowed a massive shipment of parts out.
There are some bad serial number lists out there- some of the "post production tractors" were actually production tractors, just built later than some of the serial number lists go to. What's your number?

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Walt in Jaxn Tn.

03-06-2004 12:55:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: German export F-30 in reply to Guy Fay, 03-06-2004 05:59:34  
The frame/tool box serial number is 30066. I had posted the information in Red Power back in March of 1989. I'll have to ask the new owner what the engine number is, I just know it is higher than the tractor frame/tool box number. The question remains, what purpose or market did International have in mind when they built that tractor? How many collectors have seen a Farmall like it? I've seen one other at the Red power round up at Boonville Mo. and was told that there were 7 total known to exist. The only "fact or truth" that we can establish Mr. Fay is that International built it, it is not very common... How about you collectors in north central Missouri. It came from a salvage yard in Bloomington back in 1970 in Macon county.

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Guy Fay

03-06-2004 15:57:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: German export F-30 in reply to Walt in Jaxn Tn., 03-06-2004 12:55:39  
I know there was a possibility F-30s were built later than the official end of production for suger cane applications, posibly for some other stuff. This tractor does appear a bit taller. Were there any suffix letters on the tag or engine number?

I'm also wondering if this could be a tractor that was given some sort of conversion kit, similar to the high number F-12s.

Anything else unusual about this tractor?

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Walt in Jaxn Tn.

03-06-2004 22:08:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: German export F-30 in reply to Guy Fay, 03-06-2004 15:57:16  
No suffix letters. the tractor had a pto extension, belly pump and tool mounting brackets for cultivators on the rear axel housings. The most unique part of the tractor is the 3/8 thick pressed steel hubs with tabs on the rear and 40 inch rims. The cane tractors had 42 inch rear rims I believe.



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