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Zeth Poettker

03-01-2004 15:39:02

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Would somebody please tell me weather or not my 1944 model H farmall will pull a 12'disc because my Grandfather George Wade says it will and my dad says that it wont and i am in the process of buying a disc.

Thanks Zeth Poettker

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ChadS

03-02-2004 18:41:43

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Re: I got a Question in reply to Zeth Poettker, 03-01-2004 15:39:02

I have a Farmall H that will pull a 12 ft disk in 4th gear all day long.. LOL It is a pulling tractor. I seen this post and could not resist, ChadS

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Hugh MacKay

03-05-2004 03:17:24

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Re: Re: I got a Question in reply to ChadS, 03-02-2004 18:41:43

Chad: I'm willing to bet you never pulled a 12' disk with that H all day long. The actual test of a tractor, is the one that can run 24 - 7 with it's rated load and do it efficiently.

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Wide Open

03-02-2004 12:02:45

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Re: I got a Question in reply to Zeth Poettker, 03-01-2004 15:39:02

I pull a 14 foot tandem IH disk with my DC Case and can usally only go in 1st gear. It also requires the duals to get enough traction. I would say that a 12 foot would be too much for an H. Maybe 8 foot would be better?

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Hugh MacKay

03-02-2004 02:43:32

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Re: I got a Question in reply to Zeth Poettker, 03-01-2004 15:39:02

Zeth: You will get all sorts of opinions on this one, but I can give 1 good rule of thumb. If the disk doesn't require 1 to 1.25 hp per blade, it's not worth the effort to haul it home. I will qualify that a bit and say 18" blades on a wheel controled disk. Disks vary quite a bit on their weight per blade and some will tell you add weight. In my years of experience bearings, gang bolts, spacers and disk blades were usually engineered for the weight of the disk.

My dad bought a new 28 blade, 16" blades wheel controled disk in 1956. That disk was just about 8'. It could take the new 300 all the way down to 2nd gear low on the TA. I later bought another new disk same make as my dad had for use behind 560D and 656D. It was a 44 plate, 18" blades and just about 12' width. The 560 and 656 did handle this disk much better than 300 did the 28 blade disk. Now I am a bit rusty on drawbar hp Nebraska tests, but I'm thinking 300 was about 30 whereas 560 and 656 would be in the 53 hp range.

There are all kind of tractors pulling more disk than my rule of thumb, but then a lot of them are about as effective as a land roller, and my Super A will pull a 12' land roller.

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Joe Evans

03-01-2004 19:32:20

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Re: I got a Question in reply to Zeth Poettker, 03-01-2004 15:39:02

We have a 12' JD disk that is all our 460 comfortably wants. I will admit the disk is very worn and the gang angle of attack may change to aggressive when pulled, but I can't imagine an H handling that size. No way.

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Randy in NE

03-01-2004 18:14:25

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Re: I got a Question in reply to Zeth Poettker, 03-01-2004 15:39:02

We pulled a 15' single disk with our '48 H when I was a kid. It handled it ok in 4th. When we got to the steep hills we would have to drop back to 3rd sometimes. A 12' tandem disk would be a heck of a load unless you want to farm in 1st gear.

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Josh

03-01-2004 16:14:22

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Re: I got a Question in reply to Zeth Poettker, 03-01-2004 15:39:02

A 12' disc is more than i would pull would an M. I wouldn't even think of trying with an H.

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riverbend

03-01-2004 16:09:00

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Re: I got a Question in reply to Zeth Poettker, 03-01-2004 15:39:02

Any chance that you would hook on to a neighbor's disk and try it ? You would have a pretty good H if it would handle a 12' double disk.

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Bill Smith

03-01-2004 15:54:02

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Re: I got a Question in reply to Zeth Poettker, 03-01-2004 15:39:02

I have what is most likely a 12' disc. It is a single gang and is straight across with no angle at 12'. This is the road position because the disc will just roll without discing any dirt. You back up and the tongue will push the center back and you put a pin in where you want the angle to be set. When angled the most the disc is probably atleast 8' wide (this is where it moves the most dirt). This disc is a really old drag style disc. The H pulls it at any setting. The H should pull a light single gang 12' disc I would say. It is deffinately not going to pull a heavy built large diameter 12' double gang disc. That would be way to much I would say.

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Dave

03-01-2004 15:50:02

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Re: I got a Question in reply to Zeth Poettker, 03-01-2004 15:39:02

It all depends on soil type, how wet the soil is, how you have your tractor weighted, how heavy the disc is, how deep and how fast you want to go. Don't spend so much on the disc that you will get burned on it if you can't pull it like you would like. Good luck.

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zeth poettker

03-01-2004 18:21:37

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Re: Re: I got a Question in reply to Dave, 03-01-2004 15:50:02

thank you so much for the info i think i will just wait on the disc for a while

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Don L C

03-02-2004 03:50:07

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Re: Re: Re: I got a Question in reply to zeth poettker, 03-01-2004 18:21:37

Back in '48 the H pulled a 7'IH drag disk, with 7 blades per section --- 4 sections 2front and 2 rear..... ...the M pulled an 8' disk....16" blades.....

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