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Make Run or Paint First?

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Tony

02-24-2004 05:50:29




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I would like some (more) advice on whether I should put a fairly disassmbled F-20 together and make it run before I worry about trying to paint it or paint it first.

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Tony




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Tony

02-25-2004 08:28:07




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 Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Tony, 02-24-2004 05:50:29  
Make it run it is. Thanks All!!!



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Bill Smith

02-24-2004 14:13:24




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 Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Tony, 02-24-2004 05:50:29  
Getting it running should be your first and foremost concern. You will definately want to paint an assembled engine, maybe less the mag and exhaust manifold (spark plugs, head exhaust and intake port holes masked). Well worth the time to replace all seals and gaskets that are leaking before painting. You will also want to make sure all nescisary mechanical work gets done at this time. Then disassemble what is needed for painting. One coat of primer, atleast one coat of paint. Then reassemble tractor, then do final coat of paint. If painting wheel's or rims different color, you will probably want to do them off the tractor and put them back on when painting is done. I masked what needed to be left un-painted. I put on hoses, mag, plug wires, and exhaust manifold after painting was all done. I think I just masked the setiment bowl. Putting on the sticker decals is the fun part. I can still remember putting those big ones on the sides of the gas tank. One more thing, take before and after photos. You'll be glad you did.

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Dave 2N

02-24-2004 11:38:17




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 Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Tony, 02-24-2004 05:50:29  
Tony-

Like the other guys said, get it running first but you can apint certain parts that wouldn't be much affected if you have to go back and do something mechanical. Nothing can make a grown man cry more quickly after all that time and $$ than messing up a nice paint job because you have to do eomething to get it running correctly. Basically, once it's running, run it enough to make sure there aren't any leaks.

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Paul in Mich

02-24-2004 07:13:20




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 Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Tony, 02-24-2004 05:50:29  
Tony, The easy and short answer to your question is get it running first. Having said that, there are some parts that you may find to be easier to paint while disassembled, or at least give a prime coat. Most people I've talked to and I included shoot at least one coat of primer, and 3 coats of finish paint to complete the rebuild. While it is true that your first priority is to get the tractor running good before painting, your second priority will probably be to stop all the leaks by replacing seals and gaskets. As you go through this processs, you will discover that there are nooks and crannies that make it very difficult to paint when assembled. In that case, you can prime or even go so far as to prime and paint first finish coat before assembling that particular segment. Chances are that you will end up painting places that didn't get painted at the factory because of their inaccessability. After you get all the mechanical work done including seals and gaskets, you will find that you will disassemble some parts to make it easier to clean up and paint. Thats when you will want to have everything primed, and then complete a first coat of finish paint on everything. Next you'll probably want to assemble everything but sheet metal, and give a second finish coat, then assemble all the sheet metal and give a third and final finish coat with everything fully assembled. The exceptions to this are those items which are to be painted a different color, which you will add after the painting is complete or masked in the process. Essentially, you wnat to have everything in good operating order before you paint, but as you see, restoring is a total, ongoing process, not necessarily one in defined segments.

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Tony

02-24-2004 09:11:56




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 Re: Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Paul in Mich, 02-24-2004 07:13:20  
Thanks a lot Paul and all. That kind of detail is what I need, being a rookie. Hope to see you at a show in MI this year (I live in Ann Arbor)



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John in NE

02-24-2004 06:50:19




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 Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Tony, 02-24-2004 05:50:29  
The 'C' I have was pulled out of the trees and everything was stuck.Steering,clutch linkage and engine.I started with a power washer,then tore it down, rebuilt everything,overhauled engine assembled the tractor,got it running,tore it back down and then I painted it. Now I am working on a F-20 for a friend,I tore it down completely and am in the process of putting it back together to get it running.I did paint the bell housing and inside the frame rails so I won't have to remove the engine to paint them after it s running.Theres not much to paint on a F-20,that needs to be done before it is running so by all means,get it running first.John

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Michael Soldan

02-24-2004 05:58:19




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 Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Tony, 02-24-2004 05:50:29  
Tony, my first reaction is that you would want to have the tractor in top working condition before painting, that is only to ensure that your paint work is not ruined by having to disassemble the tractor afterwards. You can leave some sheet metal off and paint some parts that are not involved in the rebuild, although it appears that you have answered your own question by delving into the motor first, you may as well do all seals and brakes before you get the paint gun out as well. good luck with your project.....Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Mike A

02-24-2004 17:12:40




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 Re: Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Michael Soldan, 02-24-2004 05:58:19  
make it run first!



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Jim in michigan

02-24-2004 05:54:35




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 Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Tony, 02-24-2004 05:50:29  
I think i would make sure it runs first, why is it disassembled? was someone restoring it? Did it run before it was torn apart?.....Jim



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Tony

02-24-2004 06:25:26




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 Re: Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 05:54:35  
It did not run and was stuck. It took a lot to get it unstuck, but it is now. It has not run since the 50's from what I was told. Where in MI are you? I am in Ann Arbor.



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Jim in michigan

02-24-2004 08:53:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Make Run or Paint First? in reply to Tony, 02-24-2004 06:25:26  
I am a Yooper,, roughly 5-6 hours from the bridge,,,over near Lake Superior...If it was stuck,,I would put rings and bearings in it while its apart, then paint it and reassemble,might save some work later...Then ya know you have a new engine and the rest wont be so bad to deal with,,,Jim



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