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Leaking oil around brakes on an H

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Andy in Ohio

02-07-2004 17:16:27




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What is the best way to fix leaking seals around the bull pinion shaft? I was going to put new seals in but there is noticable play in the bearing up and down and side to side. Should I replace the bearings or would doubling the new seals do the trick? Anyone out there had this problem? This is a show tractor that won't be used for work and both sides are this way. Thanks for the advice, Andy




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Fred - Kansas

02-08-2004 10:46:55




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 Re: Leaking oil around brakes on an H in reply to Andy in Ohio, 02-07-2004 17:16:27  
Bite the bullet and replace the bearings. It just takes one ball bearing dropping out of the bearing cage to find its way beneath the bull gear and get punched out through the bottom of your housing. Your time and expense really goes up at that point.

Fred - Kansas



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SGT K

02-07-2004 19:55:50




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 Re: Leaking oil around brakes on an H in reply to Andy in Ohio, 02-07-2004 17:16:27  
Andy,
I just went through this, and I got a lot of good advice here. I also had a lot of end play in my pinion shafts. My problem was one of my bearings was loose on the shaft, and my bearings were also loose in the housing.

I fixed mine by pulling the PTO assembly, taking off the cap screw and large washer from the axle, removing the four bolts that hold the axle seal and pulling the axles. After pulling the axles I was able to pull the bull gears back and toward the center of the rear end. This allows enough room to pull the bull pinion assemblies without it catching on the bull gear. One of my axles did not want to pull out so I removed the axle housing with it.

My bearings seemed good, so I center-punched the housing and shaft, then lock-tighted them when I put the assembly back together. I also double sealed the shafts and packed grease between the seals, just because it seemed like the thing to do.

You can read this advice first-hand from the people who gave it to me if you do an archive search under "bull pinion end play" or "end play solved".

I hope I explained this well enough, if you have any more questions just ask, someone here is always able to help. Good luck.
SGT K

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02-07-2004 19:17:29




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 Re: Leaking oil around brakes on an H in reply to Andy in Ohio, 02-07-2004 17:16:27  
Bearings should have little or no play I'd do it right and put new ones in, ya you might get by with double seals but I believe in doing it right the first time in the long run it cost less



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Dan

02-07-2004 19:13:10




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 Re: Leaking oil around brakes on an H in reply to Andy in Ohio, 02-07-2004 17:16:27  
I just doubled up the seals and it is working just fine. unless you want to replace bearings which can be a pain i would just double the seals.



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