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Hydraulic strength?

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tim

01-30-2004 19:02:31




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I was wondering how strong the stock hydraulics on a super C were. I have no idea...

Thanks, feel free to get off topic...




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Haas

01-31-2004 10:13:00




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 Re: Hydraulic strength? in reply to tim, 01-30-2004 19:02:31  
The Super C hydraulic pump will put out about 1200 psi maximum pressure. Not sure what the flow is. More modern tractor hydraulics are usually 2000 to 2500 psi. You can compensate by using a larger cylinder, which of course takes more volume and will operate slower.



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Jim

01-30-2004 19:41:02




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 Re: Hydraulic strength? in reply to tim, 01-30-2004 19:02:31  
Tim. I have a 1950 Farmall C with fast hitch and a #20 loader, and it lifts a #8 3-16 plow 3-4' in the air, or one time I had 6 150lbs. wheel wieghts in the bucket. It also, not with loader, lifts my JD 10' cultimulcher with the remotes



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tim

01-31-2004 08:41:52




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 Re: Re: Hydraulic strength? in reply to Jim, 01-30-2004 19:41:02  
neat. The hydraulics in these farm tractors aren't as strong as backhoe hydraulics though, right?



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Jim

01-31-2004 10:16:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Hydraulic strength? in reply to tim, 01-31-2004 08:41:52  
No, they are not, that's why I have a 580 super L CASE backhoe. I will tell you this-my little farmall C has alot of hydraulic "spunk" for his size.



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Mark

02-02-2004 10:24:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Hydraulic strength? in reply to Jim, 01-31-2004 10:16:52  
Get a high pressue gauge (Northern Tool has a 0-5000# for $10). Put it in your high pressure line and measure the pressure with the tractor at PTO speed. Put the hydraulics back like they were.

Measure the internal diameter of your cylinder (piston width across the top) and divide by 2. Take this number x the same number x 3.14. Multiply this by the pressure you measured and you have your lift capacity at the cylinder. Any lift arm length will either add to this or subtract depending on whether or not you have distance between the cylinder and what you want to lift.

So for a 1200 lb measurement of pressure, and a 3" cylinder we have 3"/2 = 1.5" x 1.5" x 3.14 x 1200 psig = 8482 lbs lifting capacity according to my calculator.

If the lift arm pivots at the tractor and the cylinder is 1 ft from the tractor and the length of the arm (at the point where you are lifting) is 3' from the tractor then you have a second class (as I recall) lever gain of 3' - 1 ' = 2 ft so lbs x ft = 8482 x 2 (feet x pounds....ft-lbs)or 16,964 lbs lifting capability.

Now with that said, the practical side of all this is hydraulic leaks, piston blow-by and ability of your tractor to support that kind of load. Probably a couple of thousand pounds is more practical.

Awesome isn't it, what hydraulics do for us every day in every walk of life.

Mark

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