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Sunny South my foot.

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williamf

01-28-2004 22:11:19




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We came into a little ice this week. The lights went out about one Monday afternoon, still out when I left for work tonight. Gas logs are keeping the house comfortable, but I need a propane burning internet connection to keep up with the goings on here. The trees we have around here don't understand about ice; all the evergreens, hollies and pines, are falling on the powerlines faster than Tricounty can cut them off.

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Randy

01-29-2004 06:09:09




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 Re: Sunny South my foot. in reply to williamf, 01-28-2004 22:11:19  
I can second that. I'm in Georgia and it gets cold as a well diggers here. Wind chill night before last was 0. Here with the humidity and 0 wind chill factor = froze.



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Paul in Mich

01-29-2004 05:26:16




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 Re: Sunny South my foot. in reply to williamf, 01-28-2004 22:11:19  
Williamf, I know what you are talking about. in 1955 My folks moved from Michigan to "Sunny south Fla". Along in January and Febuary, Florida decided to experience one of its coldest winters in history. It wasnt cold temperature wise anything like it ever gets here in Michigan, but it was constantly 25 to 30 degrees F. at night for over 2 weeks. (Dont you Canadians start laughing yet).....First of all, houses in So. Fla werent equiped with furnaces. Just a space heater in the hall way to take a chill off should the temps dare creep below 50 degrees. The terrazzo floors get so cold that you cant even walk around in stocking feet. YOu need to keep shoes on. We had sold all of our winter coats thinking it never gets "That cold" in Fla. That was a mistake. Also, there is a penetrating nature to a Florida chill, due to the humidity and constant seabreeze, that goes right through the body even at 40 F. Anyway, without proper clothing, and chilled to the bone to begin with I, along with most other teenagers and available bodies in the area were "conscripted" to help those who had Mango or avocado groves or tomato fields keep smudge pots and tires burning in the mornings to keep the frost off. That may have been the warmest thing going as there were burn barrels going to get warm once in a while. The Winter chill lasted long enough tho and stayed cold throughout the day long enough that burning tires and smudgepots didnt prevent everything from freezing anyway. Now folks, I've been outside this winter in Zero-F and below weather shoveling the walkways and other things, and have been warm as toast with my Carharts, Lined boots, Lined gloves, Hooded jacket etc. Maybe past experience is the reason I don't make the mad rush for Florida's sunny beaches when it gets cold here in Michigan. The coldest winter I ever spent was in Florida.

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Hugh MacKay

01-29-2004 03:22:30




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 Re: Sunny South my foot. in reply to williamf, 01-28-2004 22:11:19  
William: Don't knock it, we haven't heard a peep from the Global Warming nuts all winter. They are probably the one's off buying these condos in Mexico.



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riverbend

01-29-2004 07:32:06




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 Re: Re: Sunny South my foot. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-29-2004 03:22:30  
Mr. MacKay,

Mexico would be nice as it is still -20F here.

NASA says that the arctic ice sheet is getting smaller. Everyone says that the antarctic ice sheet is melting. NOAA says that the oceans are 1/2 a degree warmer. Our growing season is about a week longer than it used to be. What do you think is happening ?

The current local weather has almost nothing to do with the global climate. If your opinion on climate change is based on fact, please share them with us.


Greg

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Hugh MacKay

01-29-2004 08:56:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Sunny South my foot. in reply to riverbend, 01-29-2004 07:32:06  
Riverbend: No facts were ever intended. I question not what you are saying. However if we are going to continue gobbling up agricultural real estate for housing at the rate we currently do, we best hope for some longer growing seasons or there will be some quite hungary people in those pig pen real estate developments. Yes my friend if you look at some of those new sub divisions that is exactly what they look like, a modern day hog barn.

Back to my statment, these little miss goody two shoes do gooders are saying nothing, this winter, just driving the icy roads at brake neck speeds in their SUV's, and the bloomin big house is empty all day, belching emissions into the air. For all these people ever do at home, they could live in a 16' insulated truck box. That would give room for a bed, toilet and shower. I saw one of these guys last Sat. morning, foot of snow all over the SUV, he could hardly see out, turned into Tim's for breakfast.

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riverbend

01-29-2004 12:27:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Sunny South my foot. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-29-2004 08:56:17  
Amen to all of that.

I thought that we had a lock on hypocrites down (or in your case, up) here. Any one owning a 10,000 sq ft starter mansion, plopped down in a farm field, driving an SUV should choke if they ever even thought about commenting on food, sustainability or climate change.



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Dieselrider

01-29-2004 03:52:14




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 Re: Re: Sunny South my foot. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-29-2004 03:22:30  
That would be a good place for them.



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