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Can a hi crop be a row crop???

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Brad in VA

01-18-2004 05:23:28




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Hello, I have seen a guy in florida that has some hi crop tractors. He says they are Hydro 656's but I think the are hydro 86's in the hi crop form. My question is I know you can put a regular row crop from on them but can you take the hi crop additions off the rear and make them a regular row crop?? Is it simple?? Do you have to buy anything other than the row crop front??? Thanks




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Harold H

01-18-2004 15:17:04




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 Re: Can a hi crop be a row crop??? in reply to Brad in VA, 01-18-2004 05:23:28  
Brad,

If you want to convert a Farmall 656 or 86 Hydro High Clear to a regular Farmall, you will need to buy the two regular rear axle housings and axles as well as a front end, either single front, dual front, or wide front depending on your preference.

Harold H



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Hicropman

01-18-2004 06:03:31




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 Re: Can a hi crop be a row crop??? in reply to Brad in VA, 01-18-2004 05:23:28  
Most people want to go the other way!! You can lower them back down by putting a row crop front end in place of the hicrop fron end and replacing the rear axle assemblies with axle housings and axles from a row crop. The components you take off are good property to sell for someone wanting to raise one up!!



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RICK

01-18-2004 13:01:41




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 Re: Re: Can a hi crop be a row crop??? in reply to Hicropman, 01-18-2004 06:03:31  
my question is what exactly is a row crop tractor



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Harold H

01-18-2004 15:12:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Can a hi crop be a row crop??? in reply to RICK, 01-18-2004 13:01:41  
Rick,

Generally speaking, a row crop tractor is a tractor that is designed to work crops that are planted in rows like 36", 38", 40". Utility and standard/wheel/wheatland type tractors are designed to work broadcast or drilled type crops not in rows or do primary tillage like disking, etc. In the IHC tractors, generally speaking, row crop tractors are Farmalls. They have a high profile to allow crop clearance, tall 38" rear wheels on axles that slide to allow fitting various row widths and either narrow front ends with one or two wheels for crop clearance or a wide front axle which generally has more clearance than axles on non row crop tractors. In the IHC tractors, McCormick or International are generally either; industrial, utility, or standard/wheel/wheatland tractors. These tractors have a low profile, generally shorter wheelbase, front axle may or may not be adjustable for width, and rear axle is generally not adjustable. The operator generally sits low on these tractors whereas he sits high fo the Farmall. Some models of the International were available as Hi Utilities. These tractors retained the short wheelbase and low seating but had taller front axles and the Farmall type adjustable rear axles and 38" wheels which made them a row crop utility. The true High Clear Farmall's were Farmall tractors equipped with taller front axles and drop type rear housings to give them additional height in order to work in tall row crops like sugar cane. Hope this helps and does not confuse you.

Harold H

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CNKS

01-18-2004 18:47:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a hi crop be a row crop??? in reply to Harold H, 01-18-2004 15:12:09  
However, unlike wheatland or standard tractors, utility tractors can be used to furrow, plant and cultivate. The 300 was designed to compete (actually surpass) the Ford 8N, or whatever the model number was in 1955. The 8N was a cultivating tractor, although not a row crop in the strictest sense of the word. Don't know if you could put a front mount cultivator on a tractor like, say, the 300 Utility, but it could certainly handle rear mount furrowers, planters and cultivators, and would thus be used like a row crop, as both the front and rear wheels are adjustable. In this situation it would be used primarily in shorter crops such as vegetables, or the first couple of cultivations of corn or sorghum. I am positive you know this, just trying to further clarify the difference between the three styles.

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Harold H

01-19-2004 05:16:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a hi crop be a row crop??? in reply to CNKS, 01-18-2004 18:47:15  
It may also help Rick if he will go to the photo section and look up pictures. The following photos will give examples of each type in the M size traactors and 350 size tractors. Farmall MV (high clearance row crop) vs Farmall M (row crop) vs McCormick W-6 (standard/wheel/wheatland) vs International I-6 (industrial). Farmall 350 Hi Clear (high clearance row crop) vs Farmall 350 (row crop) vs International 350 Hi Utility (utility row crop) vs International 350 (utility). These show clear examples of types.

Harold H

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