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Jim

01-17-2004 22:25:39




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I remember when I first jumped on a IH 66 series and just could't believe how tractors had evolved into this modern machine. A few years later when the case IH magnums came out I drove a 7110 and I remember saying that it is impossible to go any further than this. A tractor can not get any more sophisticated than this so I guess from now on they will be makeing tractors just like this until the end of time. Lately I drove a new mx 240, now how can a tractor ever evolve any further just what is left to do? I'm sure 10 years from now when I drive a new tractor I will think the same thing.

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Wide Open

01-18-2004 08:37:54




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 Re: what more can they do in reply to Jim, 01-17-2004 22:25:39  
Heck, in 10 years you won't have to drive the tractor, it will drive itself!



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Brad in VA

01-18-2004 05:28:39




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 Re: what more can they do in reply to Jim, 01-17-2004 22:25:39  
Well for one they can get more stupid looking. I think they call them the genesis series tractors from New Holland. The headlights are horriable. I think the massey ferguson tractors are the only ones that still look decent. About the only other thing they can do is get a auto pilot??? Sit in the house and drink coffee while the tractor does the plowing, disking, planting, harvesting??? Who knows. All these developers think they can keep improving things that have been takin about as far as they can go.

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Paul in Mich

01-18-2004 07:38:22




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 Re: Re: what more can they do in reply to Brad in VA, 01-18-2004 05:28:39  
Aaa...Errr...Brad, You're a little late with that assumption, according to the Case-NH web site, autopilot is already here. They use a G.P.S. system, and except for having to manually make turns at the headlands, it is as Ron Popiel says, ""Just set it and forget it". They give a few reasons why this system is beneficial, "Operator fatigue" being one of them. Pulleeeezzzze, give me a break, how tired can a person get in one of these things anyway? Besides, if they get the corn rows any more uniform and straighter, I'll never be able to find a guest row with the combine. but then I guess it won't matter will it? Anyway, the next great advancement is already here. After this, perhaps a cab with a wet sink and bar so the operator can mix his or her favorite thirst quencher as he or she fight off this tremendous urge to fall asleep on the job.

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Hugh MacKay

01-18-2004 17:40:05




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 Re: Re: Re: what more can they do in reply to Paul in Mich, 01-18-2004 07:38:22  
Paul: What happens if there is a power failure half way down the field and the tractor and planter start going in circles. Be interesting seeing you chase that one with the combine. Probably you will be able to program all the planting mistakes into the combine computer and it will follow on it's own.

Kind of reminds me of the story my dad used to tell about his on farm personal potato patch. This is in the days of horses. Just as potatoes were emerging he would drag a spike tooth harrow both ways on potato rows , for weed control. One day while doing this a rein to horse broke. The horse and spike tooth made about 6 circles before he could rein him in. Of course spike tooth crossing rows did damage, remanance of plants every where. He hitched up his horsehoe rower and rowed the whole patch back up. Had one of the best potato crops ever.

I remember another time, my dad and I along with a guy named Mike were planting corn. I was planting with 656, dad was broadcasting some fertilizer with 300 and Mike was on 1066, cab and duals with 25'cultivator. Now young Mike was also doing some quite heavy courting, kind of burning candle at both ends. Dad and Mike were on oposite of highway from me. Dad come over, tells me Mike is asleep, making about 6 mph. He is turning at ends of field but is not following any systimatic approach to cultivating. He said," At 65 I'm not good enough on my feet that I want to run in front of those duals to get in cab, nor do I want to try the same in front of the cultivator, you better come over." I went over, I to had some misgivings about trying to jump on, when your on foot man that thing was moving. I tried throwing lumps of soil at the tractor, no luck. Finally I made the run for the cultivator tongue, got on and thumped on back window, he stopped finally. Sent Mike home for the day, but not before we gave him a hard time. Near the edge of field was a small mobile home, with a very vocal lady lining there. Dad said to Mike, "You would have looked cute if you had hook the tongue of the mobile, and across the field with the lady expressing her views while hanging out the door.

The Mike's of this world may even have a harder job staying awake in these new tractors. I've driven a few of these lately. On a scale from VW Beetle to Cadillac they come close to 9.5.

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Van

01-18-2004 12:28:22




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 Re: Re: Re: what more can they do in reply to Paul in Mich, 01-18-2004 07:38:22  
I noticed that John Deere also has a GPS auto pilot system, and its true one day they will be remote control and you will drive it from your truck seat sitting on the edge of the field.
Van



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Hugh MacKay

01-18-2004 02:08:38




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 Re: what more can they do in reply to Jim, 01-17-2004 22:25:39  
Jim: They could resort to putting some torque back in them. Try putting that new one under load, a 66 series rated the same will walk all over it in the field. That is just what I noticed. Yes the tractor may well be comfortable and a pleasure to drive. But is it economical? I think not. Will it make money for the owner?



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