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How to tell 6 volt system or 12 w/o battery

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Dave

01-16-2004 19:51:01




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I happened across an old super A without a battery in it and was wondering if there is an easy way if it is still 6 volt or has been converted to 12 volts?
Thanks in advance




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Hugh MacKay

01-18-2004 06:19:29




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 Re: How to tell 6 volt system or 12 w/o battery in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 19:51:01  
Dave: Of all the suggestions you have received only a couple hold water. Are the lights 6 or 12 volt? Is the coil 6 or 12 volt and does it have a resistor? Is there anything else marked either 6 or 12 volt on tractor?

Neg. or pos. ground tells you nothing for sure, just a chance. Generator or alternator tells you absolutely nothing. There are both 6 and 12 volt generators on these tractors. The commonly used GM Delco alternator can be either 6 or 12 volt depending on built in regulator. I have two 6 volt alternators on tractors. Volt meter is the only sure answer, but then you need to have the tractor going, with the battery you use for starting unhooked, or you will just read the voltage of the battery or generating source, which ever is greater.

My suggestion unless one of the reliable sources I have outlined give you the answer, take the generator-regulator or alternator with built in regulator to a shop for testing. I brought home a tractor much like this a year ago. The only possible difference, someone before me had cooked the generator, regulator and amp gauge by fooling around with try this try that. Someone may also been at this Super A, you just don't know, if the vendor doesn't know or remember the last battery.

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farmallman

01-17-2004 07:49:59




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 Re: How to tell 6 volt system or 12 w/o battery in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 19:51:01  
I'd say the easiest way is to see if there is a generator or an alternator



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Phil GA

01-17-2004 08:47:30




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 Re: Re: How to tell 6 volt system or 12 w/o batter in reply to farmallman, 01-17-2004 07:49:59  
Looking at generator vs alternator can be deceiving. I bought a '56 300U that had a 12 volt generator and regulator on it. I have changed to an alternator without the regulator now, tho.



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Farmer Bob

01-17-2004 00:20:02




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 Re: How to tell 6 volt system or 12 w/o battery in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 19:51:01  
If the old battery cables are still there, check to see where the one with the largest diameter hole has it's other end connected. The larger of the cable end holes would have gone on the positive post of the battery. If that one is attached to a chassis bolt good chance it is still 6V. HTH.



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Dan

01-16-2004 20:05:50




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 Re: How to tell 6 volt system or 12 w/o battery in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 19:51:01  
Obvious signs are if it has been changed from generator to alternator. If it still has the generator you could see if it looks original, check the regulator same way. If it has a resistor in the line from the ignition to the coil it is probably 12 volt. The original 6 volt is positive ground, does it look like this is or not. If the distributor is hooked to the positive terminal on the coil it is positive ground.

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tractorboy

01-16-2004 20:04:29




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 Re: How to tell 6 volt system or 12 w/o battery in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 19:51:01  
get it started and see what it is charging, llok at light bulbs,look at regulator to see if it is 12 or 6. I have an early H that has had nothing but regulator changed to 12 volt and that thing will charge 13,14 volts no problem just not a lot of amps . If you you start it several time without running it much it won,t keep battery hot. If you're using it, no problem



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