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IH 504 smokes for the first 60 second????????????

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Tim

01-11-2004 18:13:48

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I heat the glow plugs for 30 sec,and she will start but runs rough for about 45 sec,and smokes the barn up.Ater about a minute she runs good and get the chores done,Is there to much fuel?Is there an adjestment anywhere on the fuel pump?
4c Diesel.
Tim

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tinman

01-11-2004 21:09:21

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Re: IH 504 smokes for the first 60 second????????? in reply to Tim, 01-11-2004 18:13:48

It sounds normal. Try holding the glow plugs after it starts for awhile. Our 560 does the same thing.

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K.B.

01-11-2004 19:25:36

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Re: IH 504 smokes for the first 60 second????????? in reply to Tim, 01-11-2004 18:13:48

That's normal. Just hold the glow plugs on until the smoke clears up. You should also try holding the glow plugs on for at least one minute before starting. Your D-188 is basically just the four-cylinder version of the D-236 and D-282 six-cylinders. Just ask anyone who has owned a 460, 560, 660, 606, early 706, or 656 Diesel, they'll tell you that proper use of the glow plugs makes a world of difference in starting.

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Jimmy King

01-11-2004 20:56:42

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Re: Re: IH 504 smokes for the first 60 second????? in reply to K.B., 01-11-2004 19:25:36

Started my 460 one time and a neighbor driving by came flying down the drive way he thought the shed was on fire.

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Michael Soldan

01-11-2004 18:41:21

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Re: IH 504 smokes for the first 60 second????????? in reply to Tim, 01-11-2004 18:13:48

I don't think you have a problem Tim. The diesel is not yet warmed up even with glow plugs to fully combust all of the fuel going through it, by the time it has run for a minute or two it is beginning to become efficient with the fuel and after a good warm up it exhibits no unusual smoke. I started my 584 today to blow snow at about -15* and it belches black smoke as it begins to start, when I let off on the extra fuel it smokes less, then as the cylinders warm up the smoke goes white and in a few seconds there is only the exhaust and vapour of a normal engine..my B250 does the same..nothing unusual about your diesel tractor, especially in cold weather...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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williamf

01-12-2004 03:12:41

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Re: Re: IH 504 smokes for the first 60 second????? in reply to Michael Soldan, 01-11-2004 18:41:21

My (non-IH) diesel does the same. Before it fires it fills the shed with perfectly mixed unburned diesel. I always think of the fuel/air bomb I saw demonstrated on Nova a few years ago. Wm

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Jimmy king

01-12-2004 10:36:12

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Re: Re: Re: IH 504 smokes for the first 60 second? in reply to williamf, 01-12-2004 03:12:41

He is talking about after it starts these are low compression diesel engines my 460D which I have owned for almost 30 years has always started on 4 cyl. then progressed to all 6 they are a very smooth running engine once they are hitting on all cyl. and a very efficient eng. I can pull a 7 ft offset plow on 2 1/4 gal an hour or left and right hay rakes on 1/2 gal an hour.

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