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Transmission locked into 2 gears--I think

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Mike

01-11-2004 04:49:08




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I have a W6 that seems to have a locked up transmission. It has a history of being caught in two gears. I drove it on to my trailer in low gear with no problem. Tied it down and drove home. When I tried to back it off the trailer it would not move. I can start the tractor with the clutch disengaged. If I try to start with gear shift in nuetral with the clutch engaged the started locks up and the tractor does not try to move like it would be in a single gear. I pulled the gear shift lever and worked to get thje rails all lined up but I still seems to be locked up. At one point it rolled backward on the trailer when i loosened the tied down chain. That would make me think I had the problem fixed at point in time.

Does the end of the gearshift lever ride in any type of "cradle" tyhat would move the rails to shift gears? If so, it is not in there.

Alaso, this tractor has a steel gearshift lever knob. Is the WW II deal? The serial number dates it in '46 based o books I have seen.

Thanks

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Nebraska Cowman

01-11-2004 08:25:23




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 Re: Transmission locked into 2 gears--I think in reply to Mike, 01-11-2004 04:49:08  
When you had the rails lined up did you have it in 3 gears? make sure they are in the center position. If it is still stuck something could be broken. I guess this time of year you should also consider ice in the rear end?



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Mike

01-11-2004 09:56:04




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 Re: Re: Transmission locked into 2 gears--I think in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-11-2004 08:25:23  
Thanks, Cowman,

What do you mean when you ask if I had it in three gears? It seems like I have a bigger problem if I can roll tractor on slant when tranny in nuetral?

Where located in NE, Cowman? I've been pheasnat hunting around Wynot area an hour or so out of Siuox City



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Nebraska Cowman

01-11-2004 11:36:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Transmission locked into 2 gears--I th in reply to Mike, 01-11-2004 09:56:04  
oh shoot, I'm way out west, just before you fall of the edge of the World. Don't know what to think. If the tractor moves in nuetral and you said you had the engine running? That pretty well narrows it down to the shaft between the transmission and the clutch.



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Mike

01-11-2004 13:40:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission locked into 2 gears-- in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-11-2004 11:36:20  
Engine runs when clutch is disengaeged only. Tractor will roll when engine is not running and transmission in nuetral. I think you are right. I have a problem between clutch and transmission.

I hate to think about that as a problem. I did notice quite a bit of noise in the clutch when I drove it on the trailer. It stopped when I pushed in the clutch or put the tractor in nuetral with engine running. It sure is strange that I could drive onto trailer and have it bind up on way home. I wonder if there is away to check without splitting tractor.

Cowman, are you as sensitive about Your Big Red as the folks in Wynot? Being from Missouri, I had to eat a lot of humble pie for a few years. Last year was different. Breakfast and supper at local tavern was fairly quiet.

Thanks for your responses and help.

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Geoff NY

01-11-2004 05:07:23




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 Re: Transmission locked into 2 gears--I think in reply to Mike, 01-11-2004 04:49:08  
Hi Mike, this is pretty common on the old IHC tractors. The end of the shift lever wears enough to slide out of the notch in th shifter rail without pulling it back to the neutral position. It can be tuned up by rebuilding the end of the lever. Meantime take the lever out and use a long screwdriver and pull the rail back to neutral. Metal shift nobs were war years.



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Mike

01-11-2004 09:20:09




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 Re: Re: Transmission locked into 2 gears--I think in reply to Geoff NY, 01-11-2004 05:07:23  
Thanks, Geoff.

I've done what you said to do but I am still locked up when I try to engage the clutch--whether tranny is in nuetral or in gear. I am begining to think I may have another problem. If the tractor will roll freely in nuetral with the clutch engaged, wouldn't the transmission be free?

Is there anything in the clutch assembly that would cause the problem? Could I have a broken piece in thje clutch somewhere binding when I engage the clutch?

Thanks again for your help!

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Dave in Wv

01-11-2004 15:27:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Transmission locked into 2 gears--I th in reply to Mike, 01-11-2004 09:20:09  
Im going to take a guess here,if the engine will run with clutch disengaged and will stop engine when you engage it, sounds like its working like it should.Also if you can roll tractor in neutral
the only parts you're not able to move is clutch shaft, input shaft,counter or lower trans. shaft and reverse idler gear.Suggest check for filed constant mesh or reverse idler gear or bearings letting shafts out of place.Also if you have belt pulley gear box there is a remote possibility something messed up there and locking input shaft.
good luck

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