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Adapting a 8 lug 8 wheel to 5 lug 4 1/2 pattern -

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Bama Binder

01-06-2004 18:55:04




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Anybody have any ideas about how to make this happen? I have a 184 Cub that needs flotation tires and found a used set of wheels and tires for a good price but the bolt pattern is wrong.

I have several thoughts. The simplest would be to take a couple of wheels with the 5 lug 4 1/2" pattern and cut out about a 10" diameter with a plasma cutter. Then I could weld this into the wheels with the larger pattern.

Alternatively, I could cut out the centers and drill matching 8 lug holes into the insert and bolt the insert into the larger wheel.

Any other ideas?

Thanks guys.

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Cliff Neubauer

01-07-2004 10:07:40




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 Re: Adapting a 8 lug 8 wheel to 5 lug 4 1/2 patter in reply to Bama Binder, 01-06-2004 18:55:04  
The best way would be to find a new wheel disk to fit the new rim with the proper bolt pattern and weld it in the rims after removing the old ones. Another thing that might work would be to cut the bolt pattern out of a set of old rims and weld inside of the 8 bolt rims. The 8 bolt rims probably have a big enough pilot hole that the 5 hole ring would fit inside of it. The older Cub Cadets use the same bolt pattern as your 184. I've thought about doing the same thing you are for our 185 except I have the flotation tires and would like some skinny lug tires for pushing snow, we have some 7.5x24" lug tires off an old corn picker with the 8 bolt wheels.

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Steve from MO - mebbe.

01-07-2004 06:21:32




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 Re: Adapting a 8 lug 8 wheel to 5 lug 4 1/2 patter in reply to Bama Binder, 01-06-2004 18:55:04  
J.C. Whitney used to sell adapters to put Ford, Chevy, or Chrysler wheels on VW bugs. The bolt circle was enough different that the adapter bolted up to the VW hub; the adapter had studs that you could bolt the wheel to. Only downside was a little extra positive offset.

It would be simple enough to create a pair of rings with both bolt patterns. Press a set of studs into the wheel-sized bolt circle and install the hub-sized bolt circle onto the existing bolts.

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wh

01-06-2004 19:46:12




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 Re: Adapting a 8 lug 8 wheel to 5 lug 4 1/2 patter in reply to Bama Binder, 01-06-2004 18:55:04  
needed a 20" truck wheel couple years ago and could find the pattern. local tir store gave me a 20" blank rim after i made them beleive i was going to mount the tire back on the rusted out wheel. i was going to use plasma like you mentioned but was able to cut the rivets out that held center in old wheel and it fit perfect into the blank. weldign it in and worked fine. was on a farm trailer and not a vehicle. was easy to line up center to make wheel run straigth. check your original wheels and see if the center wil come out.

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