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Bill

12-29-2003 04:33:10




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What are the strong points and weak points in this model tractor? I have one that has bee well used. Starts fairly easy , did smoke a lot at first after warm up very little smoke . Oil pressure drops after warm up. Does this indicate worn bearings? Still havn't solved the hydrolic leak(unloading and flow controll valve) any ideas. thanks Bill




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ray

12-29-2003 10:22:35




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 Re: i h 584 in reply to Bill, 12-29-2003 04:33:10  
Your concern of the oil pressure dropping after warm-up may merit further investigation, if you're thinking of purchasing the tractor. First point - most diesel engines pressure will drop after warm-up. If the guage drops below 1/4 of the entire scale at 750 rpm, your engine is not freshly rebuilt. Second point - some of these engines whose pressure is negligable (<10psi) while hot still may have alot of life left in them. Since it's usually the main and cam bearings that open up to decrease oil pressure, If it were mine I would run it until something breaks (spins a bearing or worse) because either way the repair bill will be high.
If you are buying and concerned check out the engine with a real oil pressure guage, and if worn, factor in the price of a long block to the offer(amortized to projected hours left). You can price one out at www.batescorp.com.

BTW check for blow-by (alot of smoke or out the breather)as another indication of wear. Of course nothing beats a compression test.

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richard

12-29-2003 09:02:22




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 Re: i h 584 in reply to Bill, 12-29-2003 04:33:10  
Bad point-Parking brake
Could be better-Laycock clutch,but can be upgraded to the later Rockford when worn out.
Overall a good solid tractor,better with 8 speed rather than the T/A option but these can be locked into high range,a tractor that will be hard to beat in it's class and certainly more reliable than the offerings at that time from M.F & Ford were.They are capable of very high hours,but you may have a well worn one there.

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