Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Farmall & IHC Tractors Discussion Forum
:

Carburetor Float Question

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Kevin

12-26-2003 15:28:05




Report to Moderator

I'm not much of a mechanic but learning, so here goes. The float on my M carburetor is stuck - I think. When I try to start it gas pours out the bottom of the carb. Can I unstick the float without taking the carburetor off or do I need to take it off to try and fix it. If it isn't the float I suppose the next step is to rebuild the carburetor. Thanks for any help. It's 70 degrees here in Texas and feel the need to drive the tractor.

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Mr. J....maybe another pr

12-26-2003 19:45:04




Report to Moderator
 Re: Carburetor Float Question in reply to Kevin, 12-26-2003 15:28:05  
third party image

Kevin,

I think you may also have a bad needle and seat. This is the valve that keeps fuel from flowing when the float moves up. Many times the needle can become dry and crack, allowing fuel to flow through even though the float is rising. Another problem, that I have seen a couple of times is a cracked bowl or top....a very microscopic crack can leak fuel and it will drive you nuts....Anyway, I would go to your local IH dealer and pick you up a carburetor kit, put in a new needle and seat, and while you have it apart, place the float into a container of gasoline and see what happens, if it floats, then great. Re-assemble the carb and install it...I hope this helps, hope you all had a Merry Christmas. Let me know if I can be of further assistance,

Jared Jeffries

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
rebuilder

12-26-2003 16:27:12




Report to Moderator
 Re: Carburetor Float Question in reply to Kevin, 12-26-2003 15:28:05  
Kevin: These are the most common problems with floats on carburetors I rebuild.

1) The float has fallen apart either from excess vibration or excess heat melting the solder.

2)the float does not "float" due to a pinholeleak or a crack in the solder. Shake the float itself and you will feel gas moving inside the float. I have tried to drain and resolder floats with no luck and besides you can generally buy a new float fairly cheap.

3) I have found the float tends to "stick" along the sides of the carb. Fisrt thing you need to do and the last thing you do after a rebuild is to twist the carb. in your hands. You should hear or feel the float moving. If not take apart and CAREFULLY bend one or the other sides to adjust the fit, then assemble & twist again.

4) many older carbs. will be rusty or sticky enough from varnish to cause the float to stick on the pivot axle. Make sure float & needle valve combo move freely.

5) if after rebuilding the carb you still have gas leaking out, many times this can be fixed by bending the float down slightly so it will shut the fuel off sooner.

6) make sure you have the pivot bracket sides close but not tight against the float and that the axle "IS" tight by clamping with the split end of the pivot bracket.(I found out the hard way by having a 300 carb that I rebuilt cause a gas fire. Luckily the fire was put out without too much damage and the tractor in question just happened to be owned by a relative"WHEW". Near as I can tell on the carb I rebuilt I did not get the float axle clamped tightly enough as well as the pivot bracket sides were to far apart. Vibration etc. caused the float axle to slide out and the float "fell" cockeyed into the bowl which in turn cused the fuel to gush out hitting a hot motor and starting the fire. Thank god it was put out quickly, but I had some serious questions about my ability thrown my way. I guess that is one way to learn!!

If you have any more questions thow a post my way. Merry Christmas & happy New Year.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
deereeater

12-26-2003 15:47:56




Report to Moderator
 Re: Carburetor Float Question in reply to Kevin, 12-26-2003 15:28:05  
bust thing to do is take the carb off and chech it out the most you may have to do is soak it in cleaner for a day or two. or the float could be bad and only need a little sodering.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Mark in AB

12-26-2003 16:05:10




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Carburetor Float Question in reply to deereeater, 12-26-2003 15:47:56  
tap the carb with a bolt or small hammer while the fuel is overflowing. flooding may stop if your real lucky



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
FARMALLSM

12-26-2003 17:34:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Carburetor Float Question in reply to Mark in AB, 12-26-2003 16:05:10  
SOLDER MELTS AT APPROX 800 DEGREES I DON'T WANT TO BE AROUND A CARB OR TRACTOR FOR THAT MATTER THAT IS SUBJECT TO THAT MUCH HEAT. IN ORDER FOR THE SOLDER TO MELT ON THE FLOAT THE TRACTOR WILL HAVE TO BE ON FIRE. GOOD LUCK



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
moonlite

12-26-2003 17:51:17




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Carburetor Float Question in reply to FARMALLSM, 12-26-2003 17:34:00  
50/50 solder flows freely at about 400F I have soldered many fuel tanks and other fuel vessels without any problems. Was a sheetmetal worker!



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
rebuilder

12-26-2003 17:40:58




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Carburetor Float Question in reply to FARMALLSM, 12-26-2003 17:34:00  
FarmallSM: You would not believe how many floats/venturi I have to replace each year due to melting. Usually from burned tractors, although I have seen where excessive backfireing DID seem to cause some partial melting to the float. Sometimes you have to see it to believe it.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy