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H rear axel housing gaskets

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Gary V

12-22-2003 14:31:54




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Need to replace axle housing gasket on h model. I think thats what you would call it.It is the housing that goes over the rear axel that bolts to the rearend. My question is . How do I replace these. After taking the wheel and the outer axle bearing seal off can I just unbolt the axel housing from the rearend and slide it back enough to put a bead of sealer around it. Or is there more to it than that. Thanks and Have a merry and SAFE Holiday.

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NDS

12-22-2003 18:57:25




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 Re: H rear axel housing gaskets in reply to Gary V, 12-22-2003 14:31:54  
I agree with others on safety did not elaborate on that but we had had tractors blocked up hundreds of times and knew how to do it safely. One more word of warning never use concrete blocks they can break without warning with disastrous results we always used 8X8 or larger hardwood blocking. On removing wheels we never tried to remove them in one piece remove tire and wheel if they are not loaded can handle them by hand OK, remove weights if any about 140 lbs.each then remove wheel this might take a little longer but in my opinion it is a lot safer.

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CNKS

12-22-2003 17:50:23




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 Re: H rear axel housing gaskets in reply to Gary V, 12-22-2003 14:31:54  
In addition to Larry's post, get the best engine hoist (cherry picker) you can find. Mine is marginal, and will tip with the weight of the rear wheel, if I'm not careful. When the wheels are near the end of the axle, be very careful. You don't just want to knock the wheel off the end of the axle and expect the cherry picker to hold it. Be ready to get out of the way if something slips. If the thing is adustable, set it as wide as it will go. I have some aluminum saw horses that I use to support the axle housings when they are being removed, while they are chained to the cherry picker. You don't know which way these things are going to go when you slide the axle out, so I like to have enough support so they don't swing and hit me or something else.

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NDS

12-22-2003 17:50:16




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 Re: H rear axel housing gaskets in reply to Gary V, 12-22-2003 14:31:54  
Gary: I remember helping my dad change broken axle housing out in field about 30 years ago. I think we just removed wheel and outer bearing unbolted broken housing slid it off and slid replacement on. Only thing I remember for sure is that we had it back running in less than 1/2 day and all the tools we had were couple of jacks and hand tools. Was somewhat faster back then than I am now though. Now it takes 1/2 day just to look it over. Though I have never done it I would think you could remove wheel unbolt housing ang wiggle housing out enough to change gasket. Might be a little tight scraping old gasket off if it is stuck and new gasket would have to be cut at top but dab of sealer should seal cut. If you have to remove bull gear getting them back on through PTO hole can be a challenge at least on M have not tried it on H.

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Larry in CO

12-22-2003 15:55:02




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 Re: H rear axel housing gaskets in reply to Gary V, 12-22-2003 14:31:54  
Gary,
Here is a post that describes how I did this same job just about a year ago. Hope this helps.

"I'm in the process of re-doing a '46 H and needed to replace the rear axle gaskets. I've been pretty reluctant to start this job 'cause everything back there is pretty heavy. Last week I finally worked up the guts to tackle the job. First before I did anything was to ensure that all the bolts would loosen, including the bolts that hold the rim to the wheel and the axle clamp. I also loosened the bolt that holds the axle to the bull gear at this time. (I'm doing this thru the PTO hole, by the way.) Then I locked both brakes and blocked the other rear wheel, in front and behind. I also blocked the front wheels, both front and behind. I then jacked up the rear end under the diffy housing and also placed a jack stand under the swinging drawbar bracket. I took all the bolts out that hold the rim on and moved the rim out of the way. I then wrapped a chain thru the wheel and hooked it up to my cherry picker and got it off - can you say heavy? Then I fashioned a sling around the axle housing and hooked the cherry picker up to that. Now I loosened the bolts holding the axle housing to the diffy housing about a quarter of an inch. I used wood shims under the front and rear of the bull gear to keep it from moving when I took the axle out. I also placed one under the center of the bull gear to keep it from tipping into the center of the housing. I placed a deep well socket between the bolt I was goint to remove and the other axle bolt. When loosening the bolt up, this caused the axle to be pushed out of the bull gear. Then I took all the bolts out holding the axle housing in and slowly slid the housing and axle free from the main housing. The bull gear never moved a bit! All of this removal took only about an hour. I cleaned all the old gasket off and checked the inner axle bearing. Oops, bad news! This bearing was missing 3 balls. (By the way, I did find all the missing pieces.) Well, gotta tear it down a bit farther than I planned and wait for a new bearing. Got the bearing and installed it and put the new gasket in place. I figured I would have a tough time getting the axle back in the bull gear, but the cherry picker was just the ticket for this. I was able to raise the axle and housing up to the proper level and get the housing started back into place. I then reached inside the differential housing to hold the bull gear from moving and at the same time turn the axle with my other hand till the splines aligned. It slipped in with no problems. Reinstalling the housing only took ten to fifteen minutes including tightening all the bolts. Now, lets hope the other side goes as easily as this one did. Probably won't find out for a while as I'm cleaning up and painting the wheel and rim while it's off."

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Gary V

12-22-2003 17:03:37




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 Re: Re: H rear axel housing gaskets in reply to Larry in CO, 12-22-2003 15:55:02  
Larry, Thanks for the play by play. There is more to it than I thought. { as usual} It might have to leak a little longer as I do not have a cherry picker at this time but I plan to get one soon.then it will not be as easy to talk myself out of doing it.



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Larry in CO

12-22-2003 17:12:02




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 Re: Re: Re: H rear axel housing gaskets in reply to Gary V, 12-22-2003 17:03:37  
Gary,

The job isn't really hard to do, you have just got to go slow and please BE CAREFUL! When you have the whole axle and housing off the tractor, if one of your supports would slip, the first thing to hit the ground is going to be the whole side of the tractor, probably with you underneath. I tell you, when I was doing mine I was as nervous as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs until I had it back together. Good luck and again, please work safe. Larry

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Gary V

12-22-2003 16:49:46




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 Re: Re: H rear axel housing gaskets in reply to Larry in CO, 12-22-2003 15:55:02  
Larry, Thanks for the play by play. There is more to it than I thought. { as usual} It might have to leak a little longer as I do not have a cherry picker at this time but I plan to get one soon.



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