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Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup?

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Tommy H

12-19-2003 10:17:43




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Hey, I just figured out that apparently my '49C is a distillate engine. It has the Distillate carb, and has a hole cut in the Right Rear of the hood. Is this bad? is it good? Rare? Why?

Can it be switched over to run on straight gas? I dont know where to get kerosene out where I live.

Thanks! Tommy H




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Dale in Ar.

12-20-2003 08:48:58




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 Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to Tommy H, 12-19-2003 10:17:43  
Tommy,I have a 52 Super C that is a distillate set up and is original.There is a small tank mounted on the right side of the motor just above the third plug,there are holes there for the bolts.A fuel line runs from this small tank to the large tank and connects to the fuel strainer bowl assembly(note:finding this strainer assembly is next to impossible).The fuel line runs from the strainer,behind the air cleaner to the carb.My carb is a Carter U.T. BUT it is different than the carter U.T. that you can find rebuild kits for(I used the same needle and seat and they fit alright)Parts for my carb have not been found and the manufacture does not carry them.The manifold is a big square type with a butterfly mounnted inside the big part. Yes you can run gasoline through it and it will do ok.I don't know how this all affects the power but mine does ok. As for the rarity,I've seen quite a few of this set-up around here.They are different and I'll not change mine.

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kyroastnear

12-19-2003 19:16:42




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 Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to Tommy H, 12-19-2003 10:17:43  
I own a 1950 model C with this fuel setup Yes the manifold is different as other posts state a large square chamber to help burn fuel. i have ran kero. gas and deisel with no problems maybe for deisel or kero. might have to tweak carb some mostly runs on gas runs real good



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Jeff

12-19-2003 22:22:35




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 Re: Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to kyroastnear, 12-19-2003 19:16:42  
Staying in the same ball park with a second idea helper to come. If you want to try your standard tractor on "Distillate" you can go to Home Depot in the paint or seasonal department and by a gallon jug of EXXON synthetic keroseen. This stuff is a bit over $6.oo a pop but it works GREAT!!!! During the summer if your lawn mower is warm and runs out of gas..pour in a little of this stuff and start it up. It will run quieter and with a little less vibration because of the softer compression knok. We ran the neighbors "B" Distillate John Deere with it and that two banger was a two popper. It really is a surprizer. The last thing is this.carry a couple bottles in the trunk of your car or behind seat in your truck. Also a long neck funnel. It is PURFECT emergency gas. This is what I think, it was Prestone or Pennskey was selling about four years ago for like $18.00 a half gallon with a fancey bottle! No fume troubles or saftey hazzards.I have used it two times in my caravan and all was well! It is also FAB in lamps. No smell and they give off a paper egg shell kind of white flame. I collect lanterns. Hope all this sill advise helps. Really do try it!

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NDS

12-19-2003 15:04:37




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 Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to Tommy H, 12-19-2003 10:17:43  
In my area distillate or kerosene tractors were the norm until about 1950. After that most new tractors I saw were either gasoline or LP (very common) until early sixtys when diesel became fuel of choice. A unmodified distillate tractor will run OK on gasoline but factory gasoline will probaly have more power and run better. The distillate manifold puts more heat in intake mixture than gasoline needs and gasoline engine will have higher compression. Have seen distillate tractors modified for gasoline mainly by milling head down, swapping manifolds and rejetting carberator good chance this has been done to yours.

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Merlin

12-19-2003 18:11:13




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 Re: Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to NDS, 12-19-2003 15:04:37  
May I ask a follow up question that I don't quite understand? Does a distillate engine exhaust manifold have some kind of square box on it? Maybe to trap heat to heat up quickly? Or to warm the carburetor? Thanks.



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NDS

12-20-2003 07:38:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to Merlin, 12-19-2003 18:11:13  
It has been sometime since I have looked at distilate manifold but believe it is more massive than gasoline manifold has adjustable "flap" to help hold heat in and is surrounded by sheet metal heat shield to hold heat in. On the other hand LP manifold has no provision for adding heat to intake mixture intake and exhaust runners are seperate castings and do not touch. Have LP manifold that has run for thousands of hours and paint is still on intake.

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rustyfarmall

12-19-2003 11:38:07




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 Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to Tommy H, 12-19-2003 10:17:43  
Tommy, the fact that your tractor has the hole in the hood, but no tank, means that it has been running on gasoline for quite some time now. The distillate was a very inexpensive fuel, cheaper even than gas, which was just what the farmer wanted. Only thing was, the tractor could not be started on distillate, so the small tank was provided for gasoline. The tractor was started on gasoline, and then, after it had warmed up for a few minutes, was switched over to run on the cheaper fuel.

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Tommy H

12-19-2003 12:25:14




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 Re: Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to rustyfarmall, 12-19-2003 11:38:07  
I just came in from getting the carb off. I got a good look at the fuel set up and ill describe it for you.

Big tank has large (tall) sediment bowl directly under it. Fuel hose coming off of bowl, behind air cleaner, acrosss carb and into elbow on front of carb. Removel of elbow exposes a wire fuel strainer inside the carb body. The carb has 1 float inside with 2 float bouys. Has a needle adjuster on bottom front, and on up top o nthe top part neck, facing down at an angle. The petcock i mentioned is a drain for the bowl. The gasket is destroyed and im not going to bother makign a new one, seeign as how it cant be started due to the 12V coil ignition and holey intake.
The Weld on the side of the block is larger than I thought. It spans about 10" straight across the block, directly behind the carb. IT doesnt appear to have been leaking.

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Tommy H

12-19-2003 12:13:01




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 Re: Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to rustyfarmall, 12-19-2003 11:38:07  
I just came in from getting the carb off. I got a good look at the fuel set up and ill describe it for you.

Big tank has large (tall) sediment bowl directly under it. Fuel hose coming off of bowl, behind air cleaner, acrosss carb and into elbow on front of carb. Removel of elbow exposes a wire fuel strainer inside the carb body. The carb has 1 float inside with 2 float bouys. Has a needle adjuster on bottom front, and on up top o nthe top part neck, facing down at an angle. The petcock i mentioned is a drain for the bowl. The gasket is destroyed and im not going to bother makign a new one, seeign as how it cant be started due to the 12V coil ignition and holey intake.
The Weld on the side of the block is larger than I thought. It spans about 10" straight across the block, directly behind the carb. IT doesnt appear to have been leaking.

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Tommy H

12-19-2003 12:07:59




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 Re: Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to rustyfarmall, 12-19-2003 11:38:07  
I just came in from getting the carb off. I got a good look at the fuel set up and ill describe it for you.

Big tank has large (tall) sediment bowl directly under it. Fuel hose coming off of bowl, behind air cleaner, acrosss carb and into elbow on front of carb. Removel of elbow exposes a wire fuel strainer inside the carb body. The carb has 1 float inside with 2 float bouys. Has a needle adjuster on bottom front, and on up top o nthe top part neck, facing down at an angle. The petcock i mentioned is a drain for the bowl. The gasket is destroyed and im not going to bother makign a new one, seeign as how it cant be started due to the 12V coil ignition and holey intake.
The Weld on the side of the block is larger than I thought. It spans about 10" straight across the block, directly behind the carb. IT doesnt appear to have been leaking.

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Tommy H

12-19-2003 10:19:28




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 Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to Tommy H, 12-19-2003 10:17:43  
Oh yeah I forgot, what was the distillate option for? Where can Ifind a distillatre tank? Anyone have a picture of a distillate set up on there tractor?



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bfarmall@msn.com

12-19-2003 15:14:13




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 Re: Re: Farmall C Distillate engine? Setup? in reply to Tommy H, 12-19-2003 10:19:28  
You need the small tank that mounts on the spark plug side as the big tank was for the fuel. The small one was for gas. You also need shutters and the right manifold and carb if you want to run on kerosene.



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